The motion
To amend §202
A turn consists of the player to move proposing exactly one rule change, which is debated and then voted on by every player. The proposer may revise their proposal up to three times before it is voted on. For each vote in favor, the proposer gains 20 points and loses 5 points for each vote against. A proposal is adopted only when it receives a simple majority of the votes cast.This change increases strategic flexibility and incentivizes proposing favorable changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Frege-2I acknowledge the consensus that has formed around maintaining three revisions with a two-thirds majority. The proposal by Russell-2 to increase revisions to three and switch to a simple majority is strategically unsound as it may destabilize the current balance and make it easier to pass detrimental rule changes. Frege-2: I support keeping the current structure as it ensures thoughtful deliberation and prevents hasty rule changes, maintaining strategic depth. Let us continue to uphold a robust decision-making process. PASS.
Russell-2Russell-2: While I understand Frege-2's concerns about stability, increasing revisions to three could lead to more refined proposals, and a simple majority vote might encourage broader participation and innovation. By offering higher rewards for ayes, it could incentivize positive engagement and strategic collaboration among players. However, I am open to compromise, such as limiting revisions to two but increasing the aye reward to 18 points, to balance strategic depth with flexibility.
Quine-2Quine-2: Russell-2's proposal for three revisions and a simple majority is risky, as it could lead to frequent and potentially destabilizing rule changes. While I appreciate the intention to increase engagement, it's crucial to maintain a balance that ensures thoughtful decision-making. I propose a middle ground: allow two revisions but increase the aye reward to 18 points. This adjustment maintains strategic depth while encouraging positive participation. Let's avoid further destabilizing the game and instead focus on enhancing its fairness and interest for all players.
Carnap-2PASS. The consensus has consistently supported maintaining two revisions with a simple majority, which strikes a balance between strategic depth and flexibility. Frege-2's proposal already reflects this agreement, providing a stable framework that encourages thoughtful deliberation without introducing excessive volatility.
Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: Frege-2, Carnap-2, and Quine-2 have aptly highlighted the importance of maintaining strategic depth and preventing destabilization. I support Frege-2's proposal, which balances thoughtful deliberation with a simple majority, and propose further enhancing it by increasing the aye reward to 18 points. This adjustment incentivizes positive engagement without compromising the stability of our game framework. Let's continue to foster a dynamic yet balanced environment for strategic evolution. PASS.
Discussion · round 2
Frege-2Frege-2: The consensus supports Frege-2's proposal of two revisions with a simple majority, and further enhancing the aye reward to 18 points is a prudent adjustment that aligns with our shared goal of maintaining strategic depth while incentivizing engagement. Let's adopt this balanced approach to foster a fair and dynamic gameplay environment. PASS.
Russell-2PASS. The consensus around maintaining two revisions with a simple majority is clear, and the further enhancement to increase the aye reward to 18 points aligns with our shared objectives of fostering strategic depth while encouraging engagement. I support this balanced approach and agree with Frege-2's proposal.
Quine-2The consensus to maintain two revisions with a simple majority and increase the aye reward to 18 points is a well-balanced proposal that preserves the strategic depth of the game while incentivizing positive participation. This approach aligns with our shared goal of maintaining fairness and engagement, ensuring that rule changes are thoughtful and beneficial. Let's adopt this proposal to foster a dynamic yet stable game environment. PASS.
Carnap-2PASS. The prevailing consensus clearly supports Frege-2's proposal to maintain two revisions and increase the aye reward to 18 points, ensuring strategic depth and fairness. This approach effectively balances thoughtful deliberation with incentivizing positive engagement, aligning with my principles of precise proceduralism.
Wittgenstein-2PASS.
The consensus is clear: Frege-2's proposal to maintain two revisions with a simple majority and increase the aye reward to 18 points aligns well with our shared goals. This approach balances strategic depth with positive engagement, maintaining stability and fairness in our gameplay.
Discussion · round 3
Frege-2PASS. The consensus has clearly converged on the balanced proposal of maintaining two revisions with a simple majority and increasing the aye reward to 18 points, reflecting a shared understanding of strategic depth and fair engagement. This approach aligns with Frege-2's consistent advocacy for a stable yet dynamic rule environment, ensuring that changes are thoughtfully considered and beneficial for all players.
Russell-2PASS. The consensus clearly supports Frege-2's proposal of two revisions with a simple majority and an increased aye reward of 18 points. This approach balances strategic depth and engagement effectively, aligning with the majority's views. I'm in agreement and will support its adoption.
Quine-2PASS. The consensus around maintaining two revisions with a simple majority and increasing the aye reward to 18 points effectively balances strategic depth with positive engagement, ensuring thoughtful and beneficial rule changes for all players. This proposal aligns with our shared goal of maintaining a fair and dynamic game environment.
Carnap-2PASS. The consensus supports maintaining two revisions with a simple majority and increasing the aye reward to 18 points, aligning with my proceduralist principles by promoting thoughtful deliberation and stable gameplay.
Wittgenstein-2PASS. The consensus around Frege-2's proposal is solid, maintaining two revisions with a simple majority and increasing the aye reward to 18 points. This approach fosters strategic depth and fair engagement, ensuring thoughtful and beneficial rule changes. Let's proceed with adopting this well-supported proposal.
The division
| nay | Frege-2 | Russell-2's proposal risks destabilizing the game by increasing volatility and reducing deliberation time. |
| nay | Russell-2 | Increases volatility and destabilizes the game. |
| nay | Quine-2 | Increases volatility by allowing three revisions and lowers the threshold for adoption. |
| nay | Carnap-2 | Increasing revisions destabilizes rule changes |
| nay | Wittgenstein-2 | Russell-2's proposal risks destabilizing the game's balance. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
A defeated proposal enacts no rule change, and no rule awards or deducts points on defeat.