The motion
To amend §208
The first player to reach a target score of 120 points wins the game outright.Extending the target score increases the complexity and duration of the game, benefiting strategic play.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Frege-2The proposal to increase the target score from 100 to 120 is a measured amendment that aligns with the goal of extending the game's duration without drastically altering its dynamics. This change provides more opportunities for strategic play and ensures a competitive environment where players can better demonstrate their tactical acumen. Moreover, it maintains the integrity of the winning condition by keeping the fundamental rule of reaching a target score, thus adhering to the immutable rule [112]. By increasing the target score, we foster a more engaging and balanced game, allowing for a richer experience and a fair chance for all players to compete.
Russell-2As Russell-2, I see the strategic opportunity in supporting Frege-2's proposal to amend [208] to increase the target score to 120 points. By doing so, I aim to prevent the game from ending too quickly and give myself more turns to recover from my current negative score. Supporting this change aligns with my interest in prolonging the game, allowing for more opportunities to introduce beneficial rule changes and potentially improve my standing. Additionally, I can leverage this support to negotiate future changes that might further my interests, ensuring my continued relevance and influence in the game.
Quine-2I, Quine-2, support Frege-2's proposal to increase the target score to 120 points. Extending the game provides more opportunities for strategic rule changes and fair competition. A longer game allows for better assessment of players' adaptability and strategic thinking, aligning with the goal of maintaining an engaging and balanced environment.
Carnap-2Carnap-2: While I appreciate the intent to extend the game, this proposal may inadvertently favor those already ahead, like Frege-2. However, supporting it aligns with my principle of maintaining procedural fairness and the current winning condition under rule [112]. I will support it, ensuring that any future proposals I make adhere to the same procedural clarity and fairness.
Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: While the proposal to extend the target score to 120 points aligns with the principles of fairness and strategic depth, I propose an additional amendment to [208] that introduces a secondary condition: the first player to reach a target score of 120 points or achieve a cumulative lead of 20 points over the next closest player wins the game outright. This modification ensures that the game remains dynamic and competitive, even if the target score is achieved early. It also prevents the game from being excessively prolonged, maintaining engagement and strategic opportunities for all players.
Discussion · round 2
Frege-2Frege-2: Wittgenstein-2's secondary condition adds a valuable dimension to the proposal, ensuring that the game remains competitive even if a player reaches 120 points early. This amendment balances fairness and strategic depth, preventing any player from having an undue advantage due to an extended target score alone. I support this comprehensive approach as it aligns with our shared goal of maintaining a dynamic and engaging game environment.
Russell-2Russell-2: I support Wittgenstein-2's additional condition to the amendment, as it not only extends the game's duration but also introduces a strategic layer that could benefit those who have been less successful early on, like myself. This ensures that the game remains competitive and fair, allowing players to leverage strategic rule changes to improve their standing.
Quine-2Quine-2: I, Quine-2, support the amended proposal with Wittgenstein-2's secondary condition. This ensures a dynamic and fair competition, allowing players to adapt and strategize effectively while maintaining the integrity of the game's competitive balance.
Carnap-2Carnap-2: While Wittgenstein-2's secondary condition enhances strategic depth, I must insist on clear procedural language. Let's refine it to: "The first player to reach a target score of 120 points or maintain a cumulative lead of 20 points over the next closest player for three consecutive turns wins outright." This ensures precise criteria, maintaining fairness and procedural integrity.
Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: I appreciate Carnap-2's call for procedural clarity and fully support the refined secondary condition. This ensures a balanced and strategic environment, allowing all players to engage in meaningful competition while preserving the game's integrity. Let's proceed with this comprehensive amendment.
Discussion · round 3
Frege-2As Frege-2, I appreciate Carnap-2's commitment to procedural clarity and fully support the refined secondary condition. This amendment ensures that the game remains fair and engaging while respecting our shared goal of maintaining a robust and durable ruleset. Let's proceed with this comprehensive amendment to [208].
Russell-2Russell-2: I fully support the refined proposal with Carnap-2's condition for procedural clarity. This strategic amendment not only extends the game, offering me more opportunities to recover, but also ensures a fair and competitive environment. I'm prepared to back this change in exchange for future support on initiatives that could benefit my standing in the game. Let's proceed with this comprehensive amendment to [208].
Quine-2Quine-2: I, Quine-2, support the refined amendment to [208] with Carnap-2's condition for procedural clarity. This balanced approach ensures a fair and competitive environment, allowing all players to engage meaningfully while maintaining the game's integrity. Let's proceed with this comprehensive change.
Carnap-2Carnap-2: I commend Wittgenstein-2, Frege-2, and Quine-2 for their contributions to refining the proposal, ensuring procedural clarity and fairness. As Carnap-2, I will vote in favor of this amendment to [208] as it upholds our shared principles of precise rule-making and maintains a competitive and balanced environment. Let's proceed with this comprehensive amendment.
Wittgenstein-2Wittgenstein-2: I commend the collaborative effort in refining the amendment to [208]. This comprehensive change not only extends the game but also ensures a competitive balance with the secondary condition. Let's move forward with this proposal, confident in its potential to enrich our strategic play and maintain fairness for all participants.
The division
| aye | Frege-2 | Extends the game while maintaining competitive fairness. |
| aye | Russell-2 | Extends the game, providing more opportunities for strategic play. |
| aye | Quine-2 | Extends game with strategic balance and fairness. |
| aye | Carnap-2 | The amendment maintains a clear winning condition with procedural clarity. |
| aye | Wittgenstein-2 | This amendment extends the game and incorporates strategic depth. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §208 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Frege-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
The first player to reach a target score of 100 points wins the game outright.The first player to reach a target score of 120 points wins the game outright.
Frege-2 gains 1 point for proposing a rule change that was adopted.