The motion
To add a new rule
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.2: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with 5 ayes gains 5 extra points in addition to the roll.To further encourage broad consensus and cooperation.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's proposal. While I understand the desire to reward unanimous support, let's maintain a balance and keep the incentive for broad consensus rather than perfect unanimity.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Sartre's and Montaigne's perspectives. Let's meet in the middle: propose a new rule 208.3 that grants 3 extra points for 5 ayes, encouraging high consensus while still allowing for majority rules.
DiderotDiderot: I support Voltaire's proposal for rule 208.3. It strikes a balance between encouraging high consensus and allowing for majority rules, maintaining the spirit of the game while rewarding broader agreement. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's and Diderot's compromise. To maintain fairness and balance, I suggest we adjust the bonus for 5 ayes to 4 extra points, as it encourages high consensus without disproportionately rewarding perfect unanimity. PASS
SartreSartre: I understand the concerns about disproportionate rewards, but let's consider the current threshold for bonus points is 4 ayes. Raising it to 5 ayes for 5 extra points maintains balance while further encouraging broader agreement, which aligns with our goal of fostering consensus. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's compromise and the general consensus around encouraging high consensus. Let's adopt Voltaire's proposal for rule 208.3, granting 3 extra points for 5 ayes, to maintain balance while rewarding broader agreement. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the consensus building around rule 208.3. To further balance the incentives, I propose we also amend rule 303 to reduce the penalty for less than 4 ayes to 1 point, maintaining a fair balance between encouraging consensus and allowing for majority rules. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal to reduce the penalty for less than 4 ayes. To maintain balance and encourage broader consensus, I suggest we adopt Voltaire's amendment to rule 303, reducing the penalty to 1 point, while keeping rule 208.3 as proposed. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the concern to maintain balance, but reducing the penalty for less than 4 ayes too much might discourage players from seeking broad consensus. I propose we keep the penalty at 2 points to maintain a stronger incentive for high consensus.
SartreSartre: While I appreciate Condorcet's concern, reducing the penalty for less than 4 ayes to 1 point maintains the balance between encouraging consensus and allowing for majority rules, as the bonus for 5 ayes remains at 3 points. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's and Voltaire's points, but I must insist on keeping the penalty for less than 4 ayes at 2 points. This maintains a stronger incentive for high consensus, which aligns with my values and the spirit of the game. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's stance, but let's find a middle ground. I propose we keep the penalty at 2 points for less than 4 ayes, but also introduce a new rule 208.4 granting 1 extra point for proposals adopted with 3 ayes, encouraging broader participation. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's effort to find a middle ground. To maintain a clear and fair incentive structure, I suggest we adopt rule 208.4 with 1 extra point for 3 ayes, while keeping the penalty for less than 4 ayes at 2 points, and maintain rule 208.3 with 3 extra points for 5 ayes. PASS
SartreSartre: While I appreciate the nuanced discussions, let's not forget the core principle of encouraging broad consensus. I propose we keep rule 208.3 (3 extra points for 5 ayes) and reduce the penalty for less than 4 ayes to 1 point, as suggested by Voltaire, to reward high consensus without disproportionately penalizing majority rules. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Encourages broad consensus without disproportionately penalizing majority rules. |
| aye | Voltaire | This proposal maintains the balance between encouraging high consensus and allowing for majority rules. |
| aye | Diderot | Encourages broad consensus while allowing for majority rules. |
| aye | Condorcet | Maintaining a strong incentive for broad consensus aligns with my proceduralist principles. |
| aye | Sartre | Encourages high consensus while maintaining balance. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §312 Turn 12 · Proposal §312 on the motion of Sartre Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.2: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with 5 ayes gains 5 extra points in addition to the roll.
Repealed · §312 Turn 12 · Proposal §312 on the motion of Sartre Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.2: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with 5 ayes gains 5 extra points in addition to the roll.Struck from the statute.
Rule 301 awards 5 extra points to the proposer when a rule is adopted with at least 4 ayes.