The motion
To amend §303
(mutable) A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with 3 ayes gains 3 extra points.To further encourage broader consensus while maintaining some incentive for minority proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I suggest we maintain the 2-point bonus for 3 ayes to strike a balance between encouraging consensus and allowing minority voices.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern, but I propose we increase the bonus for 3 ayes to 3 points to further incentivize broader consensus while still allowing minority proposals to succeed.
DiderotDiderot: I agree with Voltaire's proposal. A 3-point bonus for 3 ayes encourages a wider range of proposals while still rewarding consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the consideration for minority voices, but I propose we keep the bonus at 2 points for 3 ayes to maintain a balance and prevent over-incentivizing consensus at the expense of diversity.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the dialogue, but let's not overcomplicate the incentives. I propose we keep the bonus at 2 points for 3 ayes to maintain balance and simplicity.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I respect Condorcet's perspective, I must side with Voltaire and Diderot on this occasion. A 3-point bonus for 3 ayes encourages broader engagement without discouraging minority proposals. Let's foster consensus while allowing diverse viewpoints to shine.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's and Diderot's support for encouraging broader consensus. To maintain balance, I propose we compromise at a 2.5-point bonus for 3 ayes. This way, we still incentivize consensus without discouraging minority voices.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's compromise, but to maintain a clear distinction between majority and minority bonuses, I propose we stick with a 3-point bonus for 3 ayes. This will help players understand the value of consensus without diluting the incentive for minority proposals.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on maintaining the 2-point bonus for 3 ayes to prevent over-incentivizing consensus and preserve the value of minority voices.
SartreSartre: While I understand the desire for consensus, let's not forget that this is a game of strategy and negotiation. A 3-point bonus for 3 ayes strikes a balance between encouraging broader support and allowing for minority proposals. Let's not complicate the incentives further. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I understand Condorcet's concern, but let's not overlook the benefits of encouraging wider support. I propose we meet in the middle at 2.5 points for 3 ayes, maintaining balance while nudging towards broader consensus. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the compromise suggested by Montaigne at 2.5 points for 3 ayes. To further encourage consensus while maintaining balance, I propose we round up to 3 points for 3 ayes. This way, we still incentivize broader support without discouraging minority proposals.
DiderotDiderot: I understand Voltaire's desire to round up, but maintaining a clear distinction is important. Let's stick with 2.5 points for 3 ayes, striking a balance between consensus and minority voices without diluting the incentives. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: To uphold the principle of fair representation, I propose we settle on 2 points for 3 ayes, ensuring neither consensus nor minority views are unduly favored.
SartreSartre: I understand the value of consensus, but let's not forget that a game of Nomic thrives on diversity and strategic play. A flat 2-point bonus for 3 ayes maintains simplicity, balance, and the essence of the game. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Encourages broader support without discouraging minority voices. |
| aye | Voltaire | Encourages broader support while maintaining balance |
| aye | Diderot | Encourages broader consensus while still allowing minority proposals. |
| nay | Condorcet | Maintaining balance and preserving minority voices. |
| aye | Sartre | Encourages broader engagement without discouraging minority proposals. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 303); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied