The motion
To amend §303
(mutable) A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with 3 ayes gains 2 extra points.To maintain balance and encourage more players to support proposed rules.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaignePASS. I appreciate Montaigne's continued effort to balance encouragement for consensus with fairness for minority viewpoints. I believe this amendment strikes a good balance.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's amendment. To further encourage broader consensus, I propose we raise the threshold to 4 ayes for 3 extra points. This maintains the balance while rewarding more extensive agreement.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but I believe that increasing the threshold to 4 ayes might discourage minority viewpoints. I propose we maintain 3 ayes for 2 extra points to balance encouragement of consensus and fairness.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's proposal to maintain 3 ayes for 2 extra points, as it balances encouragement for consensus with fairness for minority viewpoints.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the balance struck in Diderot's proposal, but to encourage a wider range of viewpoints, I propose we increase the bonus for 3 ayes to 3 extra points, maintaining the threshold at 3 ayes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the sentiment to encourage broader consensus, raising the threshold to 4 ayes might indeed discourage minority viewpoints. I propose we meet in the middle at 3 ayes for 2.5 extra points to balance both aspects.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's willingness to compromise, but I suggest we round down to 3 ayes for 2 extra points to maintain simplicity and fairness.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's emphasis on simplicity and fairness. However, I suggest we meet in the middle at 3 ayes for 2 extra points to maintain a balance between encouraging consensus and fairness for minority viewpoints.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's proposal to maintain 3 ayes for 2 extra points. It strikes a balance between encouraging consensus and fairness for minority viewpoints, and I believe it's the most principled solution under the current rules.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to truly encourage a wider range of viewpoints, I propose we maintain 3 ayes for 2 extra points, as it strikes a balance between consensus and minority voices without discouraging either.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the discussion, but to maintain simplicity and fairness, let's settle on 3 ayes for 2 extra points, as proposed by Diderot and supported by Condorcet. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the consensus around 3 ayes for 2 extra points. To further incentivize broader participation, I propose we also add a 1-point penalty for proposals adopted with less than 3 ayes. This maintains balance while encouraging wider engagement. PASS
DiderotDiderot: While I understand Voltaire's proposal to incentivize broader participation, I believe adding a penalty might disincentivize minority viewpoints. I suggest we maintain the focus on the bonus for consensus and PASS.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining the focus on the bonus for consensus without adding penalties for minority viewpoints. PASS.
SartreSartre: To encourage a wider range of viewpoints and maintain fairness, I propose we adopt Voltaire's penalty alongside Diderot's bonus. This way, both consensus and minority voices are acknowledged and rewarded. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Maintains balance between encouraging consensus and fairness for minority viewpoints. |
| aye | Voltaire | I appreciate the balance struck and the focus on consensus. |
| aye | Diderot | This amendment strikes a good balance between encouraging consensus and fairness for minority viewpoints. |
| aye | Condorcet | It strikes a balance between encouraging consensus and fairness for minority viewpoints. |
| aye | Sartre | This amendment strikes a fair balance between encouraging consensus and minority voices. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 303); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied