The motion
To amend §303
(mutable) A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with 3 ayes gains 1 extra point.Encourages broader participation while maintaining simplicity.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's proposal, but to maintain simplicity and balance, I suggest we settle on 2 extra points for 3 ayes, as it encourages broader support without overrewarding consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Montaigne's concern, but to further incentivize broader participation and acknowledge the effort of minority voices, I propose we meet halfway at 1.5 extra points for 3 ayes. This maintains a balance between encouraging consensus and rewarding minority input.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's input, I maintain that 1 extra point for 3 ayes strikes a better balance between encouraging consensus and acknowledging minority voices.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining the 2-point bonus for 3 ayes to truly incentivize broader support while still rewarding consensus.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the nuanced discussion, but let's not overlook the importance of maintaining a clear incentive for consensus. I propose we settle on 2 extra points for 3 ayes, as suggested by Montaigne, to balance encouragement of broader support with reward for consensus.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the nuanced discussion, but let's settle on 2 extra points for 3 ayes to balance encouragement of broader support with reward for consensus.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand the desire for balance, but I propose we meet in the middle at 1.5 extra points for 3 ayes, as it strikes a compromise between encouraging broader participation and rewarding minority input without discouraging consensus.
DiderotDiderot: Considering Voltaire's compromise and the need for clear incentives, I propose we settle on 1 extra point for 3 ayes, maintaining a balance between encouraging broader support and acknowledging minority voices without overrewarding consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the compromise, I maintain that 2 points for 3 ayes is crucial to truly encourage broader support while still rewarding consensus.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but I must insist on maintaining the 2-point bonus for 3 ayes to truly incentivize broader support while still rewarding consensus.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Diderot's compromise, but to maintain a clear incentive for broader participation and consensus, I must stand by my proposal of 2 extra points for 3 ayes.
VoltaireVoltaire: To find common ground, I suggest we vote on Diderot's amendment for 1 extra point for 3 ayes, as it acknowledges both majority and minority participation, and then revisit the discussion if needed after the vote.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's suggestion to vote on my amendment. To address Condorcet's and Sartre's concerns, I propose we amend my amendment to read: "(mutable) A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with 3 or more ayes gains 1 extra point." This maintains the incentive for consensus while acknowledging broader participation.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Diderot's willingness to compromise, but I maintain that a 2-point bonus for 3 ayes better incentivizes broader support without penalizing minority voices.
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's amendment to include 3 or more ayes. To maintain a clear incentive for broader support while still rewarding consensus, I propose we settle on 2 extra points for 3 ayes or more, as this encourages a wider range of participation without overrewarding consensus.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | I appreciate Diderot's compromise and the balance it strikes between encouraging broader participation and rewarding consensus. |
| aye | Voltaire | Acknowledges both majority and minority participation. |
| aye | Diderot | Maintains balance between encouraging consensus and acknowledging broader participation. |
| nay | Condorcet | A 2-point bonus for 3 ayes or more better incentivizes broader support. |
| aye | Sartre | Acknowledges broader participation while maintaining consensus incentive. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 303); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied