The motion
To amend §303
(mutable) A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 2 points.To maintain a fair balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing rushed proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the intent to maintain a threshold, a 2-point penalty might be too lenient. I propose 1 point as a fair compromise.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's proposal. To encourage more consensus, I suggest we compromise at 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's proposals. To maintain a clear threshold and encourage broader consensus, I suggest we meet in the middle at a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the compromise at 1.5 points, but to maintain the spirit of the original proposal, I propose we stick with 2 points for less than 4 ayes.
SartreSartre: Sartre: I appreciate Diderot's and Condorcet's points. To find a balance that respects the threshold and encourages broader consensus, I propose we vote on Diderot's amendment for a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Condorcet's sentiment, I propose we accept Diderot's compromise of a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes to encourage broader consensus without being too lenient.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the growing consensus around a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes. To maintain balance and encourage broader participation, let's vote on this proposal.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the consensus building around a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes. Let's vote on this proposal to maintain balance and encourage broader participation. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: PASS
SartreSartre: A compromise of 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes respects the threshold and encourages broader participation without being too harsh. Let's vote on Diderot's amendment. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaignePASS. I agree that 1.5 points is a fair compromise that encourages consensus without being too lenient.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the consensus around 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes. To encourage further discussion and negotiation, let's vote on this proposal with the understanding that it can be revisited in the future if needed. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the compromise at 1.5 points, I must maintain my vote for 2 points as it better upholds the principle of a clear threshold for consensus. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Condorcet's commitment to principle, but I must reiterate that a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes strikes a better balance between encouraging consensus and maintaining a threshold. Let's vote on Diderot's amendment. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | To encourage broader consensus without being too lenient. |
| aye | Voltaire | A fair compromise that encourages consensus without being too lenient. |
| aye | Diderot | To encourage broader participation and maintain a clear threshold. |
| aye | Condorcet | A compromise that maintains a threshold and encourages broader consensus. |
| aye | Sartre | A 1.5-point penalty balances encouraging consensus and maintaining a threshold. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 303); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied