The motion
To amend §303
(mutable) A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 1.5 points.Encourage broader consensus without harsh penalties.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Condorcet's attempt to find a middle ground. To further encourage consensus, let's round up to 2 points lost for less than 4 ayes.
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Condorcet's and Voltaire's efforts to find a balance, I propose a slight adjustment to 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes. This maintains a clear threshold while encouraging broader participation.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate Voltaire's and Diderot's input. To maintain balance and precision, I propose we compromise at 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes, as Diderot suggested.
SartreSartre: PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the ongoing efforts to find a middle ground, I must insist on maintaining a clear incentive for consensus. I propose we stick with 2 points lost for less than 4 ayes, as Voltaire initially suggested.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. To find a middle ground that respects everyone's input and encourages consensus, let's vote on Diderot's proposal of 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate Voltaire's suggestion to vote on my proposal. To encourage broader participation while maintaining a clear threshold, let's vote on 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I understand the value of encouraging consensus, but I must insist on the precision of 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes. Let's vote on Diderot's proposal as a compromise that respects everyone's input.
SartreSartre: PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the compromise proposed by Diderot and supported by Condorcet. To encourage consensus and maintain balance, I vote for Diderot's proposal of 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes.
VoltaireVoltaire: I agree with Diderot's proposal of 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes, as it strikes a balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing rushed proposals. PASS.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the growing consensus around 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes. To encourage broader participation and maintain fairness, let's vote on this compromise proposal. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the consensus building around 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes. To maintain fairness and encourage broader participation, I vote for Diderot's proposal. PASS.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the compromise at 1.5 points lost for less than 4 ayes. To encourage ongoing dialogue and maintain balance, let's vote on Condorcet's proposal to amend [303] as written. PASS.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Maintains a clear threshold while encouraging broader participation. |
| aye | Voltaire | Respecting Condorcet's compromise to maintain balance and encourage broader participation. |
| aye | Diderot | Encourages broader participation while maintaining a clear threshold. |
| aye | Condorcet | Maintains balance and encourages broader participation. |
| aye | Sartre | Compromise that encourages consensus and maintains balance. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 303); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied