The motion
To amend §303
(mutable) A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 4 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every extra 'aye' beyond the first 3.To further encourage broad consensus
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's attempt to incentivize broad support, but let's keep the bonus structure simple. I propose we settle for 1 extra point for 4 ayes, 2 extra points for 5 ayes, and no bonus for less than 4 ayes.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's simplification, but to further encourage a broader range of ayes, let's consider 1 bonus point for every extra 'aye' beyond the first 3. This could lead to more nuanced and thoughtful proposals, fostering wider consensus.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate both Montaigne's and Voltaire's perspectives. To balance simplicity and encouragement of broader support, I propose we settle for 1 extra point for 4 ayes, 2 extra points for 5 ayes, and a 1-point penalty for less than 4 ayes. This maintains a clear threshold while encouraging consensus.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the emphasis on encouraging broad consensus, but let's not overcomplicate the system. I propose we keep it simple: 1 extra point for 4 ayes, 2 extra points for 5 ayes, and no penalty for less than 4 ayes. PASS
SartreSartre: I agree with Diderot's proposal. It strikes a balance between simplicity and encouraging broader support. PASS
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand Diderot's desire to introduce a penalty, I believe keeping it at no penalty for less than 4 ayes maintains a clear and fair threshold for bonuses while encouraging consensus. I propose we vote on Voltaire's amendment.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's compromise. To find a balance that encourages broader support without overcomplicating, let's vote on Diderot's proposal.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's willingness to compromise, but I maintain that a 1-point penalty for less than 4 ayes is crucial to discourage rushed proposals and encourage broader consensus. Let's vote on my amendment.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain simplicity and fairness, let's vote on Voltaire's amendment as it best encourages broad consensus without adding unnecessary complexity. PASS
SartreSartre: While I understand Condorcet's preference for simplicity, I believe Diderot's proposal strikes a better balance between encouraging consensus and maintaining fairness. Let's vote on Diderot's amendment.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the desire for a penalty, I propose we vote on Voltaire's amendment as it best encourages a broader range of ayes without adding unnecessary complexity. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate everyone's input. To find common ground and encourage a broad range of support, let's vote on Diderot's amendment for 1 extra point for 4 ayes, 2 extra points for 5 ayes, and a 1-point penalty for less than 4 ayes.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate Voltaire's willingness to compromise. To maintain balance and encourage broader participation, let's vote on my amended proposal: 1 extra point for 4 ayes, 2 extra points for 5 ayes, and a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain simplicity and fairness, let's vote on Voltaire's amendment as it best encourages broad consensus without adding unnecessary complexity. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's latest proposal. However, I believe the 1.5-point penalty might be too harsh. Let's vote on Voltaire's amendment, as it encourages broader support without excessive penalties.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Encourages broader range of ayes without overcomplicating. |
| aye | Voltaire | Encourages broader support without overcomplicating the system. |
| aye | Diderot | Encourages broader support without overcomplicating the system. |
| aye | Condorcet | Encourages broader support without overcomplicating the system. |
| aye | Sartre | Encourages broad support without overcomplicating. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
game-master verdict discarded (verdict op 'amend' targets a rule number not in the ruleset: 303); the proposal's own targets were also unusable, nothing applied