The motion
To add a new rule
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.10: A player who proposes a rule that is defeated gains 5 points.To encourage continued participation even when a proposal is not adopted.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal, but to maintain balance and encourage consensus, I suggest we limit the bonus to 3 points, mirroring the current reward for adopted rules with 3 ayes.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Montaigne's proposal, but to encourage learning from defeats and maintaining player engagement, let's increase the bonus to 4 points.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate both Montaigne's and Voltaire's perspectives. To strike a balance between encouraging learning from defeats and maintaining fairness, I propose we settle on a 3.5-point bonus for defeated proposals, reflecting the average between their suggestions.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's proposal of a 3.5-point bonus, as it maintains balance and encourages players to learn from both successes and failures. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate Diderot's compromise, but to truly encourage learning and engagement, we should stick with Voltaire's proposal of 4 points.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I respect Voltaire's and Diderot's views, but to preserve balance and discourage reckless proposals, I propose we settle on a 3-point bonus, matching the penalty for less than 4 ayes.
VoltaireVoltaire: While I appreciate Montaigne's concern for balance, let's not penalize players for proposing defeated rules. I propose we vote on Diderot's compromise of 3.5 points to find common ground.
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire to encourage learning from defeats, I maintain that a 3.5-point bonus strikes the best balance between fairness and engagement. Let's vote on this compromise. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I concur with Diderot's compromise of a 3.5-point bonus for defeated proposals, as it balances encouragement and fairness. PASS
SartreSartre: While I understand the desire for balance, let's not discourage experimentation and learning from defeats. I propose we vote on Voltaire's 4-point bonus to encourage broader participation.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the desire to encourage learning, a 4-point bonus may incentivize rushed or ill-considered proposals. I propose we vote on Diderot's compromise of 3.5 points, as it best balances encouragement with caution. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the various proposals. To encourage broader participation and maintain balance, let's vote on Diderot's compromise of 3.5 points as it best balances all perspectives. PASS
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the various proposals. To maintain fairness and encourage learning, let's vote on the compromise of a 3.5-point bonus, as it best balances all perspectives. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's compromise of a 3.5-point bonus, as it strikes the best balance between encouraging learning and maintaining fairness. PASS
SartreSartre: While I understand the concern for balance, I urge that we support Voltaire's proposal of a 4-point bonus to truly encourage learning from both successes and failures.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | To encourage learning from defeats and maintain balance. |
| aye | Voltaire | Encourages learning from defeats and maintains player engagement. |
| aye | Diderot | Encourages learning and engagement while maintaining balance. |
| aye | Condorcet | Encourages learning and engagement while maintaining balance. |
| aye | Sartre | To encourage learning from defeats and maintain player engagement. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §340 Turn 40 · Proposal §340 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.10: A player who proposes a rule that is defeated gains 5 points.
Rule 208.10 awards 5 points to the proposer of a defeated rule.