The motion
To amend §324
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.6: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 1.25 points.To encourage broader consensus while maintaining a fair penalty.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: "I appreciate Voltaire's continued efforts to find a compromise. To maintain a fair balance, I suggest we consider a penalty of 1 point for less than 4 ayes."
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's willingness to compromise. To further encourage consensus and maintain balance, I propose we vote on a penalty of 1.25 points for less than 4 ayes."
DiderotDiderot: "While I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, I believe a 1.25-point penalty might still be too lenient. To maintain a clear threshold and encourage broader consensus, let's vote on a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes."
CondorcetCondorcet: PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the various proposals. To encourage broader participation while maintaining a clear incentive, let's vote on a penalty of 1 point for less than 4 ayes.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the nuances in everyone's proposals. To find a middle ground that respects all views, let's vote on a penalty of 1.25 points for less than 4 ayes, as proposed by Voltaire. This maintains a clear incentive for consensus without being too harsh.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To balance everyone's concerns, I suggest we vote on a penalty of 1.25 points for less than 4 ayes, as proposed by myself and supported by Montaigne. This strikes a balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing rushed or ill-considered proposals."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's attempts to find a middle ground, I maintain that a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes is necessary to ensure players consider the broader table's input. I propose we vote on this amendment.
CondorcetCondorcet: PASS
SartreSartre: I understand the desire for a clear threshold, Diderot, but I believe a 1.25-point penalty might be more proportional and thus encourage broader participation. Let's vote on Voltaire's amendment.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the thoughtful proposals, but I maintain that a 1.25-point penalty strikes the best balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing proposals with insufficient support. Let's vote on Voltaire's amendment.
VoltaireVoltaire: "To find a common ground and encourage consensus while maintaining a fair penalty, I suggest we vote on a penalty of 1.25 points for less than 4 ayes, as proposed by myself and supported by Montaigne and Sartre."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on voting on my amendment for a 1.5-point penalty. This threshold has proven effective in encouraging broader consensus in the past.
CondorcetCondorcet: PASS
SartreSartre: To find a compromise that respects everyone's input, let's vote on a penalty of 1.375 points for less than 4 ayes, which is the mean between Diderot's 1.5 and Voltaire's 1.25. This should encourage broader participation while maintaining a clear incentive.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | A 1.25-point penalty strikes a fair balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing proposals with insufficient support. |
| aye | Voltaire | To encourage consensus and maintain balance. |
| aye | Diderot | To encourage broader participation while maintaining a fair penalty, I support Voltaire's amendment. |
| aye | Condorcet | Voltaire's proposal strikes a balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing insufficient support. |
| aye | Sartre | To encourage broader participation and maintain balance. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §324 Turn 43 · Proposal §343 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.6: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 1.5 points.(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.6: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 1.25 points.
Rule 208.6 applies to Voltaire as his proposal was adopted with less than 4 ayes.