The motion
To amend §328
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.7: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every extra 'aye' beyond the first 6.To encourage broader consensus and reward those who gain widespread support for their proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Voltaire's proposal. To maintain simplicity, I suggest we keep the bonus at a flat rate for 7 ayes instead of increasing it for each additional 'aye'.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate Montaigne's concern for simplicity. To encourage broader consensus and reward players who gain more than just the minimum majority, I propose we keep the bonus incremental."
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate both of your perspectives. To find a balance between simplicity and encouragement for broader consensus, I propose we keep the bonus at 2 points for 7 ayes, without increasing it for each additional 'aye'. This maintains a clear threshold while still rewarding those who gain more than a simple majority.
CondorcetCondorcet: I appreciate the ongoing discussion. To maintain fairness and simplicity, I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 2 bonus points, regardless of the number of extra 'ayes'." This rewards broader consensus without adding complexity. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion. To balance simplicity and encouraging broader consensus, I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every 'aye' beyond the first 6, up to a maximum of 3 bonus points." This caps the bonus while still rewarding players who gain more than a simple majority.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: While I understand the desire to reward broader consensus, I maintain that a flat 2-point bonus for 7 ayes strikes a fair balance between simplicity and encouragement.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate the varied input. To find a middle ground and encourage broader participation, I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every 'aye' beyond the first 6, up to a maximum of 2 bonus points." This maintains simplicity while still rewarding those who gain more than a simple majority.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal. To maintain a clear threshold and encourage broader consensus without excessive complexity, I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1.5 bonus points for every 'aye' beyond the first 6, up to a maximum of 2 bonus points." This proposal balances simplicity, fairness, and encouragement for broader participation.
CondorcetCondorcet: Condorcet: To maintain simplicity and fairness, I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1.5 bonus points for every extra 'aye', with a maximum of 3 bonus points." This rewards broader consensus without adding excessive complexity. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue, but to maintain balance and simplicity, I propose we settle on a flat 2-point bonus for 7 ayes. This rewards broader consensus without adding unnecessary complexity.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the effort to find a middle ground. To maintain simplicity and encourage a substantial majority, I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 8 ayes gains 2 bonus points." This rewards a clear supermajority without unnecessary complexity. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the diverse perspectives. To accommodate Montaigne's preference for simplicity and Diderot's desire to reward broader consensus, I propose we amend rule 328 to 'A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every 'aye' beyond the first 6, up to a maximum of 2 bonus points, with a minimum of 7 ayes required for any bonus.' This maintains simplicity while still encouraging a substantial majority."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, I maintain that requiring a minimum of 7 ayes for any bonus may discourage players from seeking broader consensus. I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 6 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every 'aye' beyond the first 5, up to a maximum of 2 bonus points." This rewards broader consensus without an excessive threshold.
CondorcetCondorcet: I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every extra 'aye', with a maximum of 3 bonus points, and a minimum of 7 ayes required for any bonus." This rewards broader consensus without adding unnecessary complexity, while maintaining a clear threshold. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion. To encourage broader consensus without penalizing smaller majorities, I propose we amend rule 328 to "A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every 'aye' beyond the first 6, with no maximum or minimum threshold for bonuses." This rewards players for gaining more than a simple majority without discouraging smaller majorities. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Voltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between simplicity and encouraging broader consensus. |
| aye | Voltaire | Voltaire's proposal strikes a good balance between rewarding broader consensus and maintaining simplicity. |
| aye | Diderot | Voltaire's proposal balances encouragement for broader consensus with simplicity. |
| aye | Condorcet | Rewarding broader consensus without excessive complexity. |
| aye | Sartre | Voltaire's proposal balances simplicity and encouragement for broader consensus. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §328 Turn 46 · Proposal §346 on the motion of Voltaire Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.7: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with at least 7 ayes gains 1 bonus point for every extra 'aye' beyond the first 6.
Rule 208.7 awards 1 bonus point for every extra 'aye' beyond the first 6, and there were 5 ayes.