The motion
To amend §324
After rule 208, add new rule 208.6: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 1.5 points.To maintain a balance that encourages broader participation while preventing excessive penalties.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: While I appreciate the increase, I suggest we maintain the 1-point penalty to keep the game balanced and fair.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate Diderot's proposal to raise the penalty. To maintain balance and encourage broader consensus, I suggest we vote on a 1.25-point penalty.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's input, but I maintain that a 1.5-point penalty strikes a better balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing lack of support. Let's vote on my amendment.
SartreSartre: While I understand the need for a penalty, I propose we vote on Voltaire's amendment for a 1.25-point penalty as a fair compromise that encourages consensus while maintaining a disincentive for proposals with low support.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate Sartre's compromise proposal. To maintain balance and simplicity, let's vote on Voltaire's amendment for a 1.25-point penalty.
VoltaireVoltaire: "I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the varied proposals. To find the best compromise, I suggest we vote on Diderot's amendment for a 1.5-point penalty, as it strikes a balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing lack of support."
DiderotDiderot: While I appreciate Voltaire's latest proposal, I maintain that a 1.5-point penalty better incentivizes broader support and discourages divisive proposals. Let's vote on my amendment.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Voltaire's proposal for a 1.5-point penalty as a fair compromise that encourages broader consensus without being too harsh on minority proposals. Let's vote on this amendment.
SartreSartre: I appreciate the consensus building around a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes. To encourage a broad range of support and maintain fairness, let's vote on Diderot's amendment. PASS
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the consensus building around a 1.5-point penalty for less than 4 ayes. To maintain balance and simplicity, let's vote on Voltaire's amendment as a final compromise. PASS
VoltaireVoltaire: "To find a common ground that respects everyone's input, I suggest we vote on an amendment for a 1.25-point penalty, as it maintains a balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing lack of support without being too harsh."
DiderotDiderot: While I understand the desire for compromise, I must insist on voting on my amendment for a 1.5-point penalty. This penalty better incentivizes broader support and discourages divisive proposals, thereby encouraging consensus while maintaining fairness. PASS
CondorcetCondorcet: I agree with Diderot that a 1.5-point penalty is more appropriate for encouraging broader consensus. Let's vote on Diderot's amendment. PASS
SartreSartre: I appreciate the discussion. To maintain balance and encourage consensus, let's vote on Diderot's amendment for a 1.5-point penalty. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Encourages broader consensus while maintaining a fair penalty. |
| aye | Voltaire | Encourages broader consensus and maintains fairness |
| aye | Diderot | To encourage broader consensus and penalize divisive proposals fairly. |
| aye | Condorcet | Encourages broader consensus while penalizing lack of support. |
| aye | Sartre | A 1.5-point penalty strikes a better balance between encouraging consensus and penalizing lack of support. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §324 Turn 47 · Proposal §347 on the motion of Diderot Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
(mutable) After rule 208, add new rule 208.6: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 1 point.After rule 208, add new rule 208.6: A player who proposes a rule that is adopted with less than 4 ayes must lose 1.5 points.
Rule 208.6 applies to Diderot's proposal, which was adopted with less than 4 ayes.