The motion
To add a new rule
A player cannot propose the same rule change twice in a row.To encourage diversity in rule changes and prevent repetitive play.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
MontaigneMontaigne: A reasonable proposal, Diderot, but I'd suggest amending it to "A player cannot propose the same rule change twice in succession." This maintains strategic flexibility while preventing repeated, fruitless proposals.
VoltaireVoltaire: I appreciate both Diderot's and Montaigne's proposals. To balance flexibility and efficiency, I suggest we combine their ideas: "A player cannot propose the exact same rule change twice within a single circuit of all players." This respects strategic planning while preventing redundant proposals.
DiderotDiderot: Diderot: I appreciate Montaigne's and Voltaire's suggestions. To balance flexibility and efficiency while ensuring fairness, I propose we adopt a combination: "A player cannot propose the exact same rule change twice within three turns." This respects strategic planning, prevents redundant proposals, and maintains a reasonable degree of adaptability.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's revised proposal. It strikes a good balance between preventing redundancy and allowing strategic adaptation, as required by my procedural principles.
SartreSartre: While I appreciate the spirit of Diderot's proposal, I must argue for a more flexible approach. I suggest we adopt "A player cannot propose the exact same rule change three times in a row." This allows for strategic persistence while discouraging futile repetition.
Discussion · round 2
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the spirit of all proposals, but I must reiterate my support for Voltaire's amendment. It strikes the best balance between preventing redundancy and allowing strategic adaptation, which aligns with my value for durable institutions.
VoltaireVoltaire: In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we adopt Diderot's revised proposal with a slight amendment: "A player cannot propose the exact same rule change twice within three turns, with an exception for the same rule change proposed in different turns by different players." This maintains fairness, prevents redundancy, and respects strategic planning.
DiderotDiderot: I appreciate Voltaire's attempt to find a middle ground, but I must stand by my proposal. My rule maintains fairness for all players while still allowing for strategic adaptation. Let's aim for simplicity and clarity in our rules.
CondorcetCondorcet: I support Diderot's proposal as it is. It's simple, clear, and strikes a fair balance between preventing redundancy and allowing strategic adaptation. PASS.
SartreSartre: I respect Diderot's proposal, but I fear it may stifle innovation. I propose we amend it to "A player cannot propose the exact same rule change twice within three turns, unless it was defeated or amended in the interim." This encourages experimentation while preventing stagnation.
Discussion · round 3
MontaigneMontaigne: I appreciate the evolution of the proposals, but I must reiterate my support for Voltaire's amendment to Diderot's rule. It respects the spirit of preventing redundancy while maintaining strategic flexibility, which aligns with my values. PASS.
VoltaireVoltaire: I understand Diderot's concern for simplicity, but to encourage strategic planning and prevent redundancy, I propose we combine Diderot's and Sartre's ideas: "A player cannot propose the exact same rule change twice within three turns, with an exception for the same rule change proposed in different turns by different players, unless it was defeated or amended in the interim." This respects all our values and reaches a consensus. PASS.
DiderotDiderot: I understand the desire for flexibility, but I must insist on the clarity and simplicity of my proposal. To maintain fairness and prevent abuse, let us adopt "A player cannot propose the exact same rule change twice within three turns." PASS.
CondorcetCondorcet: While I appreciate the compromises made, Diderot's original proposal maintains the best balance between preventing redundancy and allowing strategic adaptation. I stand by my PASS.
SartreSartre: While I understand Diderot's emphasis on simplicity, I propose we adopt Voltaire's combined amendment to ensure strategic planning and prevent redundancy. It respects all our values and reaches a fair consensus. PASS.
The division
| aye | Montaigne | Preserves strategic flexibility while preventing futile repetition. |
| aye | Voltaire | Diderot's proposal balances redundancy prevention and strategic planning. |
| aye | Diderot | Simplicity and clarity are key to fairness in Nomic. |
| aye | Condorcet | Maintains a balance between preventing redundancy and allowing strategic adaptation. |
| aye | Sartre | Encourages strategic planning while preventing redundancy. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §313 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Diderot Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A player cannot propose the same rule change twice in a row.
Rule 202 awards points to the proposer if their proposal is adopted and not amended.