The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold drops to two-thirds (2/3) majority of those voting.Encourages consensus and prevents swift, radical changes early in the game
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I propose we lower the threshold to a simple majority immediately to expedite gameplay. Unanimity slows progress.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand the desire to speed up gameplay, Voltaire-2, but lowering it to a simple majority too early may lead to rules being adopted without broad consensus, which could disrupt the game for everyone. Let's maintain the two-thirds majority after two full circuits to balance progress with fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2 supports Diderot-2's proposal. Two-thirds majority after two full circuits maintains a level of consensus while allowing for progress. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we adopt Diderot-2's amendment. It strikes a balance between expediting gameplay and maintaining consensus. Moreover, as a reformer, I believe experimenting with different thresholds can enrich our gaming experience. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I appreciate the sentiment, a two-thirds majority might still be too high. Let us compromise at a 60% majority after the two full circuits. This encourages progress while maintaining a considerable degree of consensus. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I propose we meet in the middle at a 66% majority after the two full circuits, compromising between Montaigne-2's 60% and Diderot-2's 67%. This way, we maintain a significant level of consensus while still allowing for swift gameplay.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's compromise, but I must insist on maintaining the two-thirds majority after two full circuits. This threshold balances progress with the common good, ensuring that significant changes are supported by a substantial majority. Let's not rush consensus for the sake of speed, as it may lead to unpopular or unfair rules. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: I agree with Diderot-2's insistence on maintaining a two-thirds majority after two full circuits. It ensures that significant rule changes have broad support, which is crucial for maintaining fairness and preventing any player from being unduly disadvantaged. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: As a reformer, I propose we adopt Voltaire-2's compromise at a 66% majority after two full circuits. This meets in the middle, balancing progress with consensus, and encourages experimentation with different thresholds. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Understanding the importance of consensus, I propose we amend the threshold to a 66% majority after two full circuits, compromising between Voltaire-2's swift gameplay and Diderot-2's broad consensus. This ensures progress without sacrificing substantial agreement. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the concerns for consensus, but let's not forget, this is a game of strategy and adaptability. A 66% majority after two full circuits balances progress with consensus, allowing us to evolve our ruleset more quickly while still maintaining a significant level of agreement. Let's vote on this amended proposal." PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for quicker gameplay, I maintain that a two-thirds majority after two full circuits best balances progress with the common good. However, to meet in the middle, I propose we amend the threshold to a 66% majority after three full circuits, ensuring broader consensus before allowing for more rapid changes. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2 supports Diderot-2's proposal to amend the threshold to a 66% majority after three full circuits, ensuring broader consensus before allowing for more rapid changes. This compromise balances progress with the common good and maintains a level of procedural fairness. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: As a reformer, I believe Voltaire-2's compromise of 66% after two full circuits strikes the right balance. It encourages evolution while maintaining substantial agreement. Let's vote on this amended proposal. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Maintaining a two-thirds majority after two full circuits balances progress with broad consensus. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Voltaire-2 finds this compromise acceptable, balancing progress and consensus. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Maintaining a two-thirds majority after two full circuits ensures broader consensus before allowing for more rapid changes. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Maintains substantial consensus while allowing for progress. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | As a reformer, I support experimentation with different thresholds to enrich our gaming experience. This compromise balances progress with consensus. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold drops to two-thirds (2/3) majority of those voting.
Rule 202 awards 1 point to the proposer upon adoption.