The motion
To amend §204
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 5 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.To encourage engagement and reduce the penalty for minority opinions.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let us retain the 10-point penalty to discourage frequent dissent and maintain the spirit of consensus.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's concern for consensus, but let us not punish dissent too harshly. A 5-point penalty seems more fitting, encouraging healthy debate without deterring it."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I agree with Voltaire-2. A 5-point penalty strikes a better balance between encouraging debate and discouraging obstruction. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand the desire to reduce the penalty, a 5-point penalty may not sufficiently discourage repeated dissent. Let's compromise at 8 points, striking a balance between encouraging debate and maintaining the spirit of consensus. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let us embrace the spirit of experiment, Voltaire-2. A 5-point penalty encourages debate without deterring it, and may even incentivize strategic dissent. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the strategic value of dissent, let us meet in the middle at 7 points. This maintains the incentive for consensus while allowing for calculated dissent. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise, but a 7-point penalty still feels too harsh. Let us settle on 5 points to foster a more dynamic and open debate. PASS"
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Let's honor the spirit of compromise and agree on Voltaire-2's proposal with a 5-point penalty. This encourages debate without unduly punishing dissent. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I respect the spirit of compromise, I must insist on 7 points to maintain the principle of consensus. Let us not make dissent too cheap. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let us consider 5 points as an experiment, Condorcet-2. If it proves too lenient, we can always revert the change later. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the longevity of the game we aim for, let us meet in the middle at 6 points. This encourages strategic debate while still penalizing persistent obstruction. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Let us not stifle debate, but rather encourage it. I propose we settle on a 5-point penalty, striking a balance between fostering open discussion and maintaining the spirit of consensus. PASS"
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I propose a 5-point penalty as a fair compromise, maintaining the spirit of consensus while encouraging open debate. Let's settle on this and move forward. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand the desire to encourage debate, a 5-point penalty may not be sufficient to deter repeated dissent that could disrupt the game's progress. Let's meet in the middle at 6 points to balance encouraging debate and maintaining the principle of consensus. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let us embrace experimentation, Condorcet-2. A 5-point penalty allows us to test the waters of a more dynamic debate, and we can always readjust later. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Encourages debate while still penalizing obstruction. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | A 5-point penalty encourages strategic debate without unduly penalizing dissent. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Encourages debate without deterring it. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | 5 points may not sufficiently discourage repeated dissent |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Embracing the spirit of experimentation. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §204 Turn 3 · Proposal §303 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 5 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.
Rule 204 requires Voltaire-2 to gain 5 points for voting against an adopted change.