The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds (2/3) of eligible voters vote aye, or once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold drops to a simple majority (2/3).To maintain consensus while allowing for progress after initial circuits.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate Diderot-2's proposal for a balanced approach, but let's consider a slight adjustment to maintain a higher threshold initially, say, 75% majority."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Let us not rush into a simple majority. Diderot-2's proposal is wise, but I suggest we retain the two-thirds majority for at least three circuits to ensure sufficient consensus."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Montaigne-2's concern for higher initial consensus, I believe Diderot-2's proposal strikes a fair balance between consensus and progress. Let's not delay the game unduly by insisting on an excessively high initial threshold.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but we must prioritize progress. I propose we amend the rule to a 66% majority after two full circuits, as Diderot-2 suggests, to balance consensus with efficient gameplay. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's find a middle ground to respect both consensus and progress. I propose we adopt Diderot-2's amendment with a 2/3 majority for the first three circuits, then drop to a simple majority afterwards. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the value of consensus and the game's longevity, let's meet in the middle at a 66% majority after the first two circuits, then adjust to 2/3 majority for the next two circuits before dropping to a simple majority. This way, we ensure sufficient initial agreement while allowing for progress as the game progresses. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "While I appreciate Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's concern for progress, I maintain that a gradual reduction of the majority requirement ensures a balance between consensus and efficiency. I propose we adopt Montaigne-2's amendment to strike the best balance." PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the various amendments proposed, but I maintain that a simple two-thirds majority after two full circuits balances consensus and progress effectively. Let's not overcomplicate the rule with multiple thresholds. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the nuances of your proposals, but we must prioritize clarity and simplicity. I propose we adopt Diderot-2's amendment with a 66% majority after two full circuits. Let's keep the rule straightforward to ensure smooth gameplay. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's not dismiss multiple thresholds outright. A flexible voting system can adapt to the game's evolution. I propose we keep Montaigne-2's amendment with a 66% majority after the first two circuits, then 2/3 majority for the next two, and finally a simple majority. This evolution respects consensus and accommodates progress. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To accommodate all views, let's compromise with a 70% majority after two circuits, then 66% for the next two, and finally a simple majority. This respects initial consensus and allows for progress over time. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I propose a compromise: 66% majority after two circuits, then 60% for the next two, and finally a simple majority. This respects initial consensus while allowing for gradual progress."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's compromise, but I maintain that simplicity and clarity are key. Let's adopt a 2/3 majority after two circuits, then a simple majority thereafter. This maintains sufficient initial consensus while allowing for efficient gameplay as the game progresses.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand the desire for simplicity, Diderot-2's proposal misses an opportunity to better balance consensus and progress. I propose we meet in the middle with a 66% majority after two circuits, then 60% for the next two, and finally a simple majority, as suggested by Voltaire-2. This respects initial consensus while gradually allowing for more efficient gameplay as the game progresses. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's adapt Diderot-2's proposal with a 66% majority for the first three circuits, then a simple majority, to balance initial consensus with the need for progress as the game evolves. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Diderot-2's amendment balances initial consensus and progress effectively. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Respects initial consensus while allowing for efficient gameplay as the game progresses. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Strikes a fair balance between consensus and progress. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Diderot-2's proposal balances consensus and progress effectively while keeping the rule simple and clear. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Diderot-2's proposal maintains a good balance between initial consensus and efficiency. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold drops to two-thirds (2/3) majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds (2/3) of eligible voters vote aye, or once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold drops to a simple majority (2/3).
Amended · §203 Turn 5 · Proposal §305 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when at least two-thirds (2/3) of eligible voters vote aye, or once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold drops to a simple majority (2/3).A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold drops to two-thirds (2/3) majority of those voting.
Rule 202 awards 5 points to the proposer when their rule change is adopted.