The motion
To amend §304
A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall gain 10 points if they do.To encourage players to stand by their proposals.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To encourage commitment to one's own proposals and maintain fairness, I propose we amend rule 304 as stated. This change benefits all players by promoting ownership and responsibility in rule changes."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's intent to promote commitment, but I propose a slight modification: "A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall gain 5 points if they do." This maintains the spirit of the amendment while keeping points in line with existing rules.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "While I appreciate the intent to encourage commitment, I propose we stick with the existing rule, keeping votes consistent and predictable. PASS."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the spirit of the amendment, but let's find a middle ground. "A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall lose 5 points if they do." This maintains the commitment aspect while still allowing for strategic voting in some cases.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the ongoing debate and Diderot-2's middle-ground proposal. To further balance commitment and strategy, I propose "A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall neither gain nor lose points for their vote." This maintains consistency with existing rules while encouraging ownership of proposals.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the diverse perspectives, but I stand by my proposal. The gain of 10 points is a significant incentive for players to commit to their own proposals, fostering a more engaged and responsible game dynamic."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for strong commitment, I propose we meet in the middle with "A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall gain 7 points if they do." This encourages commitment without disproportionately rewarding it.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I understand the intent to encourage commitment, but I maintain that predictability in voting is crucial. To balance both, I propose 'A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall neither gain nor lose more than 5 points for their vote.' This maintains consistency while allowing some flexibility."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "I appreciate Diderot-2's compromise. To find common ground, I propose 'A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall gain or lose up to 5 points for their vote, at the proposer's discretion.' This balances commitment with strategic voting and respects the proposer's intent."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise, but to maintain simplicity and fairness, I propose 'A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall neither gain nor lose points for their vote.'"
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the ongoing discussion, but I maintain that a significant incentive is necessary to encourage commitment to one's proposals. Therefore, I propose 'A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall gain 10 points if they do'."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand Voltaire-2's desire for strong commitment, but to maintain balance and fairness, I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's amendment: "A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall neither gain nor lose more than 5 points for their vote." This encourages commitment without disproportionately rewarding or penalizing it.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster engagement while maintaining fairness, I propose "A player may not vote against their own proposal once made, and shall gain or lose 3 points for their vote." This balances commitment with strategic voting and respects the proposer's intent without disproportionately rewarding or penalizing commitment.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Balances commitment with fairness. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Encourages commitment and responsibility in rule changes. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Encourages commitment while maintaining balance. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Excessive reward disincentivizes strategic voting |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages commitment while maintaining balance |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.