The motion
To add a new rule
Introducing [310] (mutable) Players may not propose a rule that contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed.To maintain consistency and prevent contradictions in the ruleset.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2"Introducing [310] (mutable) Players may not propose a rule that contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed. This ensures consistency and stability in our ruleset, preventing contradictions that could lead to confusion or conflict." - Voltaire-2
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal for consistency, but let's allow for reasonable evolutions of rules. I propose we amend the rule to: "Players may not propose a rule that directly contradicts the explicit wording or clear intent of an existing rule that has not been repealed."
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I support Voltaire-2's principle, but Diderot-2's amendment balances it with necessary flexibility. Let's adopt Diderot-2's version.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: While I appreciate the focus on consistency, I propose we maintain the spirit of Diderot-2's amendment but simplify it to: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed." This strikes a balance between preventing direct contradictions and allowing for reasonable evolution of rules.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussions, but to balance consistency and evolution, let's combine Voltaire-2's and Diderot-2's proposals: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly contradicts or nullifies an existing rule that has not been repealed." This maintains clarity, allows for reasonable evolution, and prevents direct contradictions.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise, but let's keep the language clear and concise. I propose we adopt Sartre-2's version: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed."
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromises, but let's ensure our rule covers implicit contradictions as well. I propose we amend Sartre-2's version to: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly or implicitly contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's concern for implicit contradictions, but to maintain simplicity, let's keep the rule as I proposed: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed."
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2PASS, I support Sartre-2's latest version, as it strikes a balance between preventing contradictions and maintaining simplicity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: PASS. I support Sartre-2's latest version, as it balances consistency, simplicity, and necessary flexibility.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the current wording, but to ensure clarity, I propose we amend it to: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed or amended to allow such a contradiction." This maintains simplicity while addressing potential loopholes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's amendment for clarity, but let's keep the rule simple and straightforward. I propose we adopt Sartre-2's original version: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's concern for clarity, but to maintain simplicity and balance, let's adopt Condorcet-2's proposal: "Players may not propose a rule that explicitly contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed." This version strikes the best balance between preventing contradictions and allowing for necessary evolution.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Promotes consistency and prevents contradictory rules. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Preserves consistency and stability in our ruleset. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Promotes consistency while allowing for reasonable rule evolution. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Prevents contradictions and maintains consistency in the ruleset. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Promotes consistency and prevents direct contradictions |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §318 Turn 18 · Proposal §318 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Introducing [310] (mutable) Players may not propose a rule that contradicts an existing rule that has not been repealed.
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the proposer upon adoption.