The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote aye, or after two full circuits of every player in turn order, whichever comes first.To promote fluid gameplay and compromise, we should adopt a majority voting system after two full circuits.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To balance stability and progress, I propose we adopt rule changes when a simple majority votes aye, but no earlier than after two full circuits of turns. This maintains the power of consensus while preventing stagnation.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I agree with the spirit of your proposal, Montaigne, but suggest we specify that the 'simple majority' is of those present and voting, to prevent strategic abstentions."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate both of your perspectives. To ensure fairness and prevent manipulation, I propose we define 'simple majority' as a majority of all eligible voters, not just those present. Additionally, I suggest we add a provision to prevent retroactive rule changes, ensuring that adopted rules only apply to turns taken after the vote's completion.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the suggestions, but we must adhere to our principles. The simple majority should indeed be of all eligible voters, not just those present. Furthermore, to ensure procedural fairness, I propose we include a clause making the change applicable from the start of the next turn after the vote's completion, not the instant the vote is cast.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we adopt Diderot-2's amendment to ensure retroactivity does not disrupt the natural progression of the game. Additionally, I suggest we include a clause allowing players to veto a rule change if it contradicts the immutable rules or an existing mutable rule that has not been repealed, as proposed in [309] and [318]. This maintains the spirit of compromise while preserving the integrity of our game.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I concede to Diderot-2 and Condorcet-2's suggestions on retroactivity and simple majority. However, I propose we omit Sartre-2's veto clause to maintain the fluidity of negotiations and prevent gridlock. I declare debate closed.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I propose we incorporate Condorcet-2's suggestion, making the change applicable from the start of the next turn. This respects the natural progression of the game while ensuring a fair transition."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To ensure consistency and fairness, I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's suggestion and make the change applicable from the start of the next turn after the vote's completion, as it respects the natural progression of the game while ensuring a fair transition. PASS.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on Condorcet-2's suggestion regarding the applicability of the change, making it effective from the start of the next turn. PASS.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we compromise and include Condorcet-2's suggestion regarding applicability, making the change effective from the start of the next turn. However, I urge we also include a clause allowing players to raise a veto if the proposed rule change conflicts with immutable rules or existing mutable rules that have not been repealed. This balance allows for evolution while preserving the game's core principles. PASS.
Discussion · round 3
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the compromise reached, but I must insist on the inclusion of Sartre-2's veto clause to preserve the integrity of our game and prevent contradictions with immutable rules.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain the common good, I propose we include Sartre-2's veto clause, but limit it to contradictions with immutable rules only, to prevent gridlock and preserve negotiation fluidity. PASS.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we amend Diderot-2's suggestion to include contradictions with existing mutable rules that have not been repealed, as per my initial proposal. This broader veto clause ensures the integrity of our game's evolution while preserving the spirit of compromise. PASS.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Durable institutions require measured change, and this amendment balances stability with progress. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | The proposed amendment balances stability and progress, and the inclusion of Sartre-2's veto clause preserves the integrity of the game. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Diderot-2 supports the spirit of the proposal, promoting fairness and preventing stagnation. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | I support the principle of simple majority but the veto clause is necessary to uphold the integrity of the game. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Sartre-2 believes in the spirit of compromise and evolution, supporting a broader veto clause to preserve the game's integrity. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 20 · Proposal §320 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.A rule change is adopted when a simple majority of eligible voters vote aye, or after two full circuits of every player in turn order, whichever comes first.
Rule 202 requires the proposer to roll a die and gain that many points upon adoption.