The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when a two-thirds (2/3) majority of eligible voters vote aye, or after two full circuits of every player in turn order, whichever comes first.To encourage broad consensus and stability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Raising the threshold to two-thirds encourages more thoughtful deliberation and discourages hasty decisions, aligning with our pursuit of durable institutions."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "Whilst I appreciate the spirit of your proposal, Montaigne-2, I must insist on maintaining the current majority. A two-thirds threshold may hinder the necessary flexibility in our rule changes."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the intent, Montaigne-2, but raising the threshold too high may stagnate progress. Let's compromise at a 60% majority to balance deliberation and adaptability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand the desire for thoughtful deliberation, a two-thirds majority may be too high at this stage of the game. I propose a compromise at a 55% majority to encourage careful consideration while still allowing for necessary changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "While I share the concern for thoughtful deliberation, a 55% majority might be too low to ensure consensus and durability. Let's meet in the middle at 60%, as suggested by Diderot-2, to foster both careful consideration and progress."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I see the merit in Diderot-2 and Condorcet-2's compromise. To foster both durability and adaptability, I propose we settle at a 60% majority, as suggested. Let's aim for careful consideration without hindering necessary changes."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the spirit of compromise, I suggest we settle at a 60% majority to encourage careful consideration while maintaining the necessary flexibility for our game's evolution."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I agree with the consensus at 60%, but let's also include a provision for abstentions. A player may abstain from voting, and their abstention will not be counted towards the total. This encourages players to vote thoughtfully, while still allowing for progress when a clear majority supports a change. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromise at 60%, but I must insist on maintaining the principle that all votes are counted equally. Abstentions should not affect the threshold for adopting a rule change. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I agree with Condorcet-2 on the principle of equal voting power, but to encourage thoughtful deliberation and prevent strategic abstentions, I propose that abstentions be counted as 'nay' votes, effectively raising the threshold to two-thirds. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I propose a compromise: maintain the 60% majority, but include Sartre-2's provision for abstentions to count as 'nay' votes, thus raising the effective threshold to two-thirds when faced with indifference or strategic abstentions." PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Sartre-2's concern, counting abstentions as 'nay' votes may discourage thoughtful consideration rather than encourage it. Let's maintain the 60% majority and allow abstentions without counting them, to foster both careful deliberation and progress. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: While I understand the concerns, counting abstentions as 'nay' votes may unintentionally penalize players who are absent or disconnected. Let's maintain the 60% majority, allow abstentions without counting them, and require a supermajority of present voters to adopt a rule change, ensuring that those present have given careful consideration. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of encouraging active participation, I propose a slight modification to Condorcet-2's suggestion: abstentions should count as 'nay' votes, but only if they constitute less than 20% of the total votes cast. This ensures that a clear majority of engaged players can still adopt a rule change, while also discouraging strategic abstentions. PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | Two-thirds majority may hinder necessary adaptability at this stage of the game. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Encourages thoughtful deliberation while maintaining necessary flexibility. |
| abstain | Diderot-2 | To encourage thoughtful consideration without hindering necessary changes. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Counting abstentions as 'nay' votes raises the threshold too high at this stage of the game. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages thoughtful deliberation and prevents hasty decisions. |
rejected 2 aye · 2 nay · 1 abstain
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.