The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, or after two full circuits of every player in turn order, whichever comes first.To encourage engagement and maintain stability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's aim for a balance between progress and stability. I propose we set the threshold at 55%, encouraging engagement without overwhelming consensus.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's proposal, I must insist on maintaining a higher threshold to ensure stability. 60% allows for progress while preventing knee-jerk reactions.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To preserve both stability and progress, I propose we compromise at 55%, with a provision allowing Sartre-2 to veto changes they deem harmful to the common good, as suggested earlier. This balances engagement and consensus while ensuring each player's voice is heard.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: I propose we settle on 60%, as Voltaire-2 suggests, but maintain Sartre-2's veto as Diderot-2 proposed. This balance encourages progress while protecting the game's stability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster a dynamic and adaptable game, I propose we settle at a 55% threshold, as Montaigne-2 and Diderot-2 suggested, with Sartre-2's veto clause included as per Diderot-2's proposal. This encourages progress and engagement while maintaining a degree of stability, ensuring the game remains fair and engaging for all players.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's meet in the middle at 55% for both progress and stability. I propose we include Sartre-2's veto clause to ensure all players' concerns are addressed, but limit it to once per circuit to prevent unilateral obstruction.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the compromise, but I must insist on the 60% threshold to maintain stability. I propose we allow Sartre-2's veto once per circuit to accommodate their concerns, with the veto requiring a two-thirds majority to override.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: In the spirit of compromise and to ensure the common good, I propose we adopt a 55% threshold with Sartre-2's veto once per circuit, but limit the veto to 50% of eligible voters to prevent unilateral obstruction. This balances progress, stability, and ensures all players' voices are heard fairly.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we maintain the 60% threshold as Voltaire-2 and myself have suggested, but amend Sartre-2's veto to require a simple majority, not two-thirds, to override. This balance encourages progress while ensuring Sartre-2's concerns are addressed fairly.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we adopt Diderot-2's compromise, setting the threshold at 55% and limiting Sartre-2's veto to once per circuit with a simple majority to override, to balance progress, stability, and fairness.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To maintain the spirit of compromise and the common good, I propose we settle on 55% with Sartre-2's veto once per circuit, requiring a simple majority to override, as suggested by Condorcet-2 and Sartre-2. This balances progress, stability, and fairness for all.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle on 55% for the threshold, maintaining Sartre-2's veto once per circuit, requiring a simple majority to override. This fosters progress while ensuring stability and fairness for all."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain fairness and prevent excessive obstruction, I propose we limit Sartre-2's veto to once per circuit, requiring a simple majority to override, as suggested by Condorcet-2 and Sartre-2. I believe this is the most balanced and fair compromise for all players.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I agree with the 55% threshold and Sartre-2's veto once per circuit, requiring a simple majority to override, as suggested by Montaigne-2, Diderot-2, and Sartre-2. This balance ensures progress, stability, and fairness for all." PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | I prefer a lower threshold to encourage more engagement. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Compromise at 55% with Sartre-2's veto once per circuit, requiring a simple majority to override. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | To maintain balance and fairness, I believe 55% is more suitable than 60%. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Maintains stability while addressing Sartre-2's concerns. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages progress while maintaining stability and fairness. |
rejected 3 aye · 2 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.