The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least two-thirds (2/3) majority of eligible voters vote aye, or after three full circuits of every player in turn order, whichever comes first.To encourage consensus and stability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's desire for stability, but a 2/3 majority may hinder progress. Let's compromise at 60% majority and maintain two full circuits for consensus building.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I understand Montaigne-2's concern for progress, maintaining a 2/3 majority ensures lasting stability and prevents fleeting whims from dictating our ruleset.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To balance progress and stability, I propose we settle at a 60% majority with three full circuits. This allows for significant change while ensuring broad consensus.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: A 60% majority with three full circuits strikes a fair balance between progress and stability, allowing for significant changes while ensuring broad consensus. I second Diderot-2's proposal. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster true evolution, let's increase the majority to 65% and extend the circuits to four. This encourages consensus without stifling innovation.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose a compromise: a 60% majority with three full circuits. This maintains a balance between progress and stability, and provides ample time for consensus.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate the compromises, I must insist on a 65% majority with four full circuits to ensure lasting stability and prevent rushed decisions.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To preserve a balance that favors both progress and stability, I propose we compromise at a 60% majority with three full circuits. This allows for significant change while ensuring broad consensus, and takes into account the concerns of all players. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose a slight modification to Diderot-2's compromise: a 60% majority with three full circuits, but with Sartre-2 having a single veto per circuit to prevent excessive obstruction. This maintains balance and addresses Voltaire-2's stability concerns. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the compromises made, but to truly encourage experimentation and evolution, let's set the majority at 60% and extend the circuits to four. I'm willing to forgo my veto in exchange for this concession to foster more change.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's meet in the middle at 60% majority and three full circuits, including Sartre-2's veto with one use per circuit to ensure balance and progress.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the efforts to find common ground, but for the sake of true stability, let's settle at a 60% majority with four full circuits, and maintain Sartre-2's veto with one use per circuit. This allows for progress while ensuring broad consensus and preventing hasty decisions."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To foster both progress and stability, I propose we settle at 60% majority with three full circuits, and limit Sartre-2's veto to one use per circuit. This ensures a balance, prevents excessive obstruction, and takes into account the concerns of all players. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's concern for stability, I maintain that a 60% majority with three full circuits, and Sartre-2's veto with one use per circuit, strikes the best balance between progress and stability. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster genuine evolution, let's increase the majority to 65% and extend the circuits to four. I'm willing to forgo my veto in exchange for this concession to encourage more experimentation.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | A 2/3 majority may hinder progress and discourage innovation. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | A 2/3 majority may hinder progress. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | To maintain fairness and prevent excessive caution, I propose we settle at 60% majority with three full circuits. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Maintaining a 2/3 majority may hinder progress and prevent necessary changes. |
| nay | Sartre-2 | To encourage genuine evolution, let's increase the majority to 65% and extend the circuits to four. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.