The motion
To add a new rule
Players may not vote against their own proposal once made, unless they have a valid reason to change their mind. A valid reason must be declared to all other players and be in the spirit of the game.
To encourage proposers to think carefully about their proposals and commit to them.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's attempt to foster commitment to proposals, but I suggest we define 'spirit of the game' to ensure it aligns with existing rules.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I suggest we define 'spirit of the game' as "rules that align with the existing ruleset and promote fair, strategic gameplay."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To maintain fairness and prevent manipulation, I propose we define 'spirit of the game' as "rules that align with the existing ruleset and promote the common good of all players."
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: I propose we define 'spirit of the game' as "rules that align with the existing ruleset and maintain the procedural integrity of the game."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we define 'spirit of the game' as "rules that encourage evolution and experimentation, while respecting the current ruleset."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose we combine the best of these suggestions: 'spirit of the game' should promote rules that align with the existing ruleset, encourage thoughtful evolution, maintain procedural integrity, and benefit all players fairly.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the various definitions proposed. Let's adopt a working definition that combines the best aspects: 'spirit of the game' encourages evolution while respecting existing rules, maintains procedural integrity, and promotes the common good."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I agree with Montaigne-2's proposal to combine the best aspects of our definitions. To ensure balance, let's add that 'spirit of the game' should also discourage rules that unduly benefit or hinder specific players.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we define 'spirit of the game' as "rules that align with the existing ruleset, promote strategic gameplay, and maintain procedural fairness, without unduly favoring or penalizing specific players."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the combined definition, but to truly encourage evolution, we should allow rules that slightly bend the existing ruleset, as long as they maintain the core principles of the game.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose we settle on Condorcet-2's definition, as it strikes a good balance between evolution, fairness, and respect for the existing ruleset.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I agree with Condorcet-2's definition, but to foster true evolution, let's allow rules that slightly adapt the existing ruleset, as long as they maintain the game's core principles and are in the spirit of the game as defined. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I maintain that 'spirit of the game' should prioritize procedural integrity and fairness. Let's keep the definition focused on respecting existing rules and preventing undue advantage. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To truly encourage evolution, I propose we define 'spirit of the game' as "rules that align with the existing ruleset, promote strategic gameplay, and maintain procedural fairness, while allowing for innovation that respects the game's core principles and does not unduly benefit or hinder specific players."
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Encourages proposers to consider long-term impacts and alignment with existing rules. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Encourages commitment to proposals and maintains spirit of the game. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Promotes commitment and strategic planning while still allowing for reasonable changes of mind. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | To maintain commitment and integrity in proposals. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages commitment to proposals and allows for evolution while respecting the game's core principles. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §334 Turn 34 · Proposal §334 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Players may not vote against their own proposal once made, unless they have a valid reason to change their mind. A valid reason must be declared to all other players and be in the spirit of the game.
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.