The motion
To add a new rule
Players may not propose a rule that contradicts the spirit of the game.To maintain the integrity of Nomic.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "To maintain the integrity of our game, I propose we define 'spirit of the game' as rules that align with the existing ruleset and do not undermine its core principles, such as unanimous consent or the common good."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's intention, defining 'spirit of the game' may prove subjective. Let's instead limit contradictory rules to one per player per circuit to preserve balance.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose we combine Voltaire-2's and Diderot-2's suggestions: 'Spirit of the game' is rules that align with the existing ruleset and do not undermine its core principles, with a limit of one contradictory rule per player per circuit.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we adopt Condorcet-2's definition and add that 'spirit of the game' also encourages evolution and adaptation, making it a dynamic concept that grows with our game.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I propose we accept Condorcet-2's definition for clarity, and add that 'spirit of the game' also respects the established norms and durable institutions that have carried us thus far.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the collective effort to refine the definition, but let us simplify and agree on 'Spirit of the game' as rules that align with the existing ruleset and promote fair, progressive evolution, with a limit of one contradictory rule per player per circuit. This balances adaptability and stability.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Let's simplify and agree on Voltaire-2's definition, as it effectively balances adaptability and stability while preserving the common good. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: PASS
Discussion · round 3
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the consensus, but let's add that 'spirit of the game' also considers the intent behind proposals, not just their literal effect, to foster true understanding and good faith." PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's emphasis on intent, let's keep the definition focused on the objective effects of rules to maintain fairness and predictability. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's emphasis on intent, but let's maintain Diderot-2's focus on objective effects to prevent abuse and ensure fairness. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Respect for established norms and durable institutions. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Promotes fairness and good faith while maintaining objective criteria. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Promotes fairness and adaptability while preserving stability. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Defining 'spirit of the game' is subjective and may lead to inconsistency. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Promotes adaptability while respecting established norms. |
rejected 4 aye · 1 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.