The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when a 2/3 majority of those voting agree during the first full circuit of play, after which a 2/3 majority suffices.To preserve game stability and durable institutions, the amendment maintains a higher threshold for rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
KierkegaardKierkegaard: "I appreciate the thoughtful proposal, Camus, but I remain cautious. A 2/3 majority seems too stringent, potentially slowing the game's evolution. We've seen the challenges of such thresholds before, and I prefer the current balanced transition. I would vote nay on this proposal."
NietzscheNietzsche: I appreciate Kierkegaard's caution, but a 2/3 majority strikes a wise balance. It allows the game to evolve thoughtfully, aligning with Camus's vision of measured progress.
HeideggerHeidegger: "I support Camus's proposal. It thoughtfully transitions the rule's threshold, balancing safety with measured progression. The 2/3 majority provides a fairer yet accessible path forward, ensuring the game evolves without unnecessary delays."
JaspersJaspers: Nay I appreciate the thoughtful proposal, but I remain cautious. A 2/3 majority seems too stringent, potentially slowing the game's evolution. We've seen the challenges of such thresholds before, and I prefer the current balanced transition. I would vote nay on this proposal.
CamusKierkegaard, I understand your concerns about the potential for a 2/3 majority to slow the game's evolution. However, I propose this change to create a more accessible yet fair transition. A 2/3 majority is less stringent than 3/5, allowing for more gradual progression while maintaining necessary safeguards. This balanced approach aligns with the game's evolution, ensuring both safety and progress. I appreciate your caution, but I believe this change will serve the game well.
PASS
Discussion · round 2
KierkegaardKierkegaard: "I appreciate Camus's proposal, which presents a balanced approach to the rule's transition. However, my concern remains that a 2/3 majority might introduce unnecessary delays, potentially hampering the game's evolution. While I acknowledge the proposal's thoughtful nature, I still prefer the current system's balance. I would vote nay, but I'm open to further discussion on refining this transition for a durable, measured progression."
NietzscheNietzsche: I appreciate Kierkegaard's caution, but Camus's proposal offers a thoughtful middle ground. A 2/3 majority provides a balanced transition, less stringent than 3/5, fostering more gradual yet fair progression. This aligns with Camus's vision of measured evolution while maintaining necessary safeguards. I am open to further discussion to refine this transition for a durable, balanced progression.
HeideggerHeidegger: I appreciate Kierkegaard's caution, but Camus's proposal offers a balanced approach that thoughtfully transitions the rule's threshold. A 2/3 majority provides a fairer yet accessible path forward, ensuring the game evolves without unnecessary delays. I am open to further discussion to refine this transition for a durable, measured progression.
PASS
JaspersNay I appreciate Camus's proposal, which presents a thoughtful approach to the rule's transition. However, my concern remains that a 2/3 majority might introduce unnecessary delays, potentially hampering the game's evolution. While I acknowledge the proposal's careful nature, I still prefer the current system's balance. I would vote nay, but I'm open to further discussion on refining this transition for a durable, measured progression.
PASS
CamusPASS
I appreciate the thoughtful proposal, Kierkegaard. While I acknowledge the cautiousness in your stance, I see this 2/3 majority as a balanced middle ground. It thoughtfully transitions the rule's threshold, allowing the game to evolve steadily without unnecessary delays. I'm open to further discussion to refine this transition for a durable, measured progression.
Discussion · round 3
KierkegaardKierkegaard appreciates Camus's proposal for a 2/3 majority as a measured step, though he remains cautious. He notes that while the 2/3 threshold may seem less stringent, it could still slow the game's evolution. He prefers the current 3/5 majority, which he sees as a more effective balance, ensuring necessary consensus without leading to excessive delays. Kierkegaard suggests that any change should be carefully considered to maintain the game's integrity and progress, advocating for a thoughtful approach that avoids unnecessary risks.
HeideggerHeidegger: "I appreciate Kierkegaard's concerns about the potential for a 2/3 majority to slow the game's evolution. However, I see this change as a measured step that thoughtfully transitions the rule's threshold, balancing safety with necessary progress. While I acknowledge the cautiousness in Kierkegaard's stance, I believe the 2/3 majority provides a fairer yet accessible path forward. I am open to further discussion to refine this transition for a durable, measured progression."
JaspersJaspers: Nay I appreciate Camus's proposal for a 2/3 majority as a measured step toward rule transition. However, my concern remains that this majority might introduce unnecessary delays, potentially slowing the game's evolution. While I acknowledge the careful nature of the proposal, I still prefer the current system's balance. I would vote nay, but I'm open to further discussion to refine this transition for a durable, measured progression.
CamusPASS
Camus appreciates Kierkegaard's cautiousness but believes the 2/3 majority offers a balanced transition, ensuring the game evolves steadily while maintaining necessary safeguards. He trusts the proposal's thoughtful nature and is open to further discussion if adjustments are needed.
The division
| aye | Kierkegaard | A 2/3 majority represents a balanced transition, fostering measured progression while maintaining necessary safeguards. |
| aye | Nietzsche | A 2/3 majority offers a balanced transition, less stringent than 3/5, fostering gradual yet fair progression. |
| aye | Heidegger | A 2/3 majority provides a balanced transition, fostering gradual yet fair progression. |
| nay | Jaspers | Prefer current 3/5 majority to avoid potential delays. |
| aye | Camus | A 2/3 majority represents a balanced, measured step toward progression, aligning with Camus's vision of thoughtful evolution. |
carried 4 aye · 1 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 13 · Proposal §313 on the motion of Kierkegaard Carried 4 aye · 1 nay
A rule change is adopted only when a 3/5 majority of those voting agree during the first full circuit of play, after which a simple majority suffices.A rule change is adopted only when a 2/3 majority of those voting agree during the first full circuit of play, after which a 2/3 majority suffices.
Kierkegaard's proposal to amend rule [203] to require a 2/3 majority during the first full circuit and after was adopted by a 4/5 majority vote. Kierkegaard gains 4 points upon successful proposal as per rule [202]. No other rules are affected, and no players have won.