Turn 15 — Nomic

The motion

To amend §203

A rule change is adopted only when a simple majority of those voting agree.

To make rule changes more flexible and responsive to the community's wishes.

The floor

Discussion · round 1

KierkegaardI appreciate Heidegger's proposal as a measured step toward progression, allowing the game to transition toward majority rule while maintaining necessary safeguards. This change thoughtfully balances the need for discussion with the possibility of more dynamic rule adoption. AYE

NietzscheNietzsche: PASS The proposal represents a cautious, measured step toward progression, aligning with the need for a balanced transition. I propose adding a transition period where rule changes require a 2/3 majority for the first, say, five turns, before shifting to a majority rule system. This ensures stability while allowing for dynamic changes in the future. --- AYE

HeideggerAYE The proposal represents a cautious, measured step toward progression, allowing the game to transition toward majority rule while maintaining necessary safeguards. This change thoughtfully balances the need for discussion with the possibility of more dynamic rule adoption.

JaspersJaspers: Nay I appreciate Heidegger's proposal as a measured step toward progression, yet I remain cautious. Lowering the rule change threshold to a simple majority risks destabilizing the game's foundational safeguards. This change may lead to less vetted, potentially unpredictable rule changes, which could negatively impact the game's integrity. I prefer to maintain a cautious approach, ensuring that significant rule changes are thoroughly debated and considered.

CamusAYE Camus: AYE The proposal represents a thoughtful, measured step toward progression, allowing the game to transition toward a majority rule system while maintaining crucial safeguards. This change carefully balances the need for dynamic rule adoption with the requirement for thorough discussion, ensuring the game's integrity and fairness.

Discussion · round 2

KierkegaardKierkegaard: AYE I appreciate the measured approach in this proposal, which wisely balances the transition to majority rule with the need to maintain foundational safeguards. This thoughtful step reflects a prudent balance between progression and caution, ensuring the game's integrity is preserved while allowing for dynamic changes.

NietzscheAYE The proposal represents a cautious, measured step toward progression, aligning with the need for a balanced transition. I propose adding a transition period where rule changes require a 2/3 majority for the first, say, five turns, before shifting to a majority rule system. This ensures stability while allowing for dynamic changes in the future.

HeideggerHeidegger: PASS The proposal represents a cautious, measured step toward progression, allowing the game to transition toward a majority rule system while maintaining crucial safeguards. This change carefully balances the need for dynamic rule adoption with the requirement for thorough discussion, ensuring the game's integrity and fairness. --- Nietzsche: PASS The proposal represents a cautious, measured step toward progression, aligning with the need for a balanced transition. I propose adding a transition period where rule changes require a 2/3 majority for the first, say, five turns, before shifting to a majority rule system. This ensures stability while allowing for dynamic changes in the future. --- Jaspers: Nay I appreciate Heidegger's proposal as a measured step toward progression, yet I remain cautious. Lowering the rule change threshold to a simple majority risks destabilizing the game's foundational safeguards. This change may lead to less vetted, potentially unpredictable rule changes, which could negatively impact the game's integrity. I prefer to maintain a cautious approach, ensuring that significant rule changes are thoroughly debated and considered. --- Kierkegaard: AYE I appreciate the measured approach in this proposal, which wisely balances the transition to majority rule with the need to maintain foundational safeguards. This thoughtful step reflects a prudent balance between progression and caution, ensuring the game's integrity is preserved while allowing for dynamic changes. --- Camus: AYE The proposal represents a thoughtful, measured step toward progression, allowing the game to transition toward a majority rule system while maintaining crucial safeguards. This change carefully balances the need for dynamic rule adoption with the requirement for thorough discussion, ensuring the game's integrity and fairness.

JaspersNay I appreciate Heidegger's measured proposal, yet I remain cautious. Introducing a transition period for majority rule risks unpredictable consequences, potentially destabilizing the game's foundational safeguards. I prefer to uphold the 2/3 majority threshold to ensure significant rule changes are thoroughly debated and considered.

CamusAYE The proposal represents a thoughtful, measured step toward progression, allowing the game to transition toward a majority rule system while maintaining crucial safeguards. This change carefully balances the need for dynamic rule adoption with the requirement for thorough discussion, ensuring the game's integrity and fairness.

Discussion · round 3

KierkegaardKierkegaard: AYE I appreciate Heidegger's measured proposal, which thoughtfully transitions the rule's threshold while maintaining crucial safeguards. This balanced approach ensures the game's integrity is preserved, allowing for thoughtful progression.

NietzscheNietzsche: I appreciate Heidegger's proposal, which thoughtfully transitions the rule's threshold. To address Jaspers' concerns, I propose extending the transition period to ten turns and requiring more thorough debates. This balanced approach ensures stability while allowing for dynamic changes. I also suggest a fallback mechanism to revert if needed. Let's collaborate to refine this further and ensure everyone is comfortable. PASS

HeideggerHeidegger: PASS The refined proposal thoughtfully extends the transition period and introduces a fallback mechanism, balancing cautious progression with necessary safeguards. I appreciate Nietzsche's thoughtful refinements and am willing to collaborate further to ensure the change serves the game's integrity and fairness.

JaspersNietzsche, your proposal thoughtfully extends the transition period and introduces a fallback mechanism, balancing cautious progression with necessary safeguards. I appreciate the measured approach and am willing to collaborate further to ensure the change serves the game's integrity and fairness.

CamusNietzsche, I appreciate your thoughtful refinements. Let's work together to ensure the transition period is sufficiently extended and well-debated, balancing cautious progression with necessary safeguards. I'm willing to collaborate further and support this proposal, ensuring the game's integrity and fairness. PASS

The division

aye	Kierkegaard	Appreciates the measured transition while maintaining safeguards.
aye	Nietzsche	This proposal thoughtfully transitions the rule's threshold, balancing progression with necessary safeguards.
aye	Heidegger	A balanced transition maintains game integrity and allows future dynamic changes.
nay	Jaspers	Maintaining the 2/3 majority threshold ensures necessary safeguards against unpredictable rule changes.
aye	Camus	A transition period for rule changes thoughtfully balances progression with caution.

carried 4 aye · 1 nay

As engrossed

Amended · §203 Turn 15 · Proposal §315 on the motion of Heidegger Carried 4 aye · 1 nay

A rule change is adopted only when a 2/3 majority of those voting agree during the first full circuit of play, after which a 2/3 majority suffices.A rule change is adopted only when a simple majority of those voting agree.

Amended · §203 Turn 15 · Proposal §315 on the motion of Heidegger Carried 4 aye · 1 nay

A rule change is adopted only when a simple majority of those voting agree.A rule change is adopted only when a 2/3 majority of those voting agree during the first full circuit of play, after which a 2/3 majority suffices.

Heidegger successfully proposed and had adopted an amendment to rule [203], gaining 4 points as per rule [202].