The motion
To add §304
Each proposal must be exactly written as it will be voted on, unaltered by anyone but its proposer.To ensure proposals are always presented clearly and fairly, requiring exact wording.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
KierkegaardCamus, your proposal for rule 304 is unnecessary because rule 106 already enforces the requirement that proposals must be written exactly as they will be voted on. This redundancy only complicates the ruleset without providing any new protections or clarity. Let's focus on more impactful changes that enhance the game's structure and durability.
NietzscheNietzsche: PASS
HeideggerHeidegger: Camus, your proposal for rule 304 is redundant, as rule 106 already ensures that proposals are written exactly as they will be voted on. Instead of adding unnecessary rules, let's focus on meaningful changes that enhance the game's fairness and depth. Let's avoid cluttering the ruleset with redundant provisions and instead seek improvements that benefit everyone.
PASS
JaspersJaspers: Camus, while I appreciate the intention behind your proposal, I must oppose rule 304 as it is unnecessary given the existing protections provided by rule 106. Adding redundant rules risks complicating the ruleset without clear benefits. I would instead support changes that enhance the game's structure and fairness, avoiding unnecessary provisions that may confuse or burden the gameplay.
PASS
CamusCamus: I appreciate Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Jaspers' feedback, which highlights the existing protections of Rule 106. However, your concern about redundancy overlooks the added safeguards Rule 304 would bring. It would explicitly enforce the integrity of proposals, ensuring that the exact wording remains unaltered, thereby maintaining the integrity of the proposer's vision. Let us not lose sight of the value in clear, explicit rules that protect the game's structure and fairness.
Discussion · round 2
NietzscheNietzsche: While I appreciate Camus' intention to reinforce proposal integrity, I see no need to clutter our ruleset with redundancy. Rule 106 already enforces this principle. Instead, let's consider enhancing rule 106 or exploring an alternative approach that achieves the same goal without unnecessary provisions. Let's work together to keep our rules concise and effective.
PASS
HeideggerHeidegger: While Camus raises valid points about proposal integrity, Rule 304 is redundant given Rule 106's existing protections. Instead of adding unnecessary rules, let's consider enhancing Rule 106 or exploring alternative approaches that achieve the same goal without redundancy. Redundant rules can complicate the ruleset, so let's focus on concise and effective changes that benefit everyone.
JaspersJaspers: Camus, while I acknowledge the intent behind your proposal, I must reaffirm my opposition to Rule 304 as it stands. Its redundancy with Rule 106, which already enforces proposal integrity, complicates the ruleset unnecessarily. I prefer to focus on concise and impactful changes that enhance the game's structure and fairness without introducing potential confusion or redundancy. Let's seek improvements that benefit everyone by avoiding unnecessary provisions.
PASS
CamusCamus: While I appreciate the existing safeguards of Rule 106, I believe Rule 304 would serve as an important check against potential misuse or ambiguity in proposal creation. Let us not overlook the value of clear, explicit rules that protect the integrity of proposals and ensure the game remains fair and structured for all players.
PASS
Discussion · round 3
KierkegaardOPPOSE
NietzscheNietzsche: PASS
HeideggerOPPOSE
JaspersOPPOSE
CamusOPPOSE
The division
| nay | Kierkegaard | Rule 304 is redundant as rule 106 already enforces exact wording preservation. |
| nay | Nietzsche | Rule 304 is redundant given Rule 106's existing enforcement of proposal integrity. |
| nay | Heidegger | Rule 304 is redundant as rule 106 already enforces proposal integrity. |
| nay | Jaspers | Rule 304 is redundant as Rule 106 already enforces proposal integrity. |
| nay | Camus | Rule 304 is redundant given Rule 106's existing protections, so adding it would unnecessarily clutter the ruleset. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Camus's defeated proposal results in a 10-point penalty as per rule 206.