The motion
To add §203
A rule change amending Rule 203 requires a 2/3 majority of those voting to agree.To reduce instability in rule changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
KierkegaardKierkegaard appreciates Nietzsche's thoughtful proposal to amend Rule 203, recognizing the importance of ensuring stable institutions while maintaining the ability to adapt as needed. However, Kierkegaard would recommend considering the broader implications of this change, such as its potential to slow down future modifications to the rule set, and perhaps exploring other measures that could achieve the desired balance before proceeding.
**Pass**
NietzscheNietzsche: "Kierkegaard raises valid concerns about the potential for slower rule changes with a 2/3 majority, but I believe this amendment provides a necessary balance by requiring more deliberation for significant rule adjustments. Let's explore this path together while keeping the door open for further improvements."
HeideggerNietzsche's proposal to amend Rule 203 to require a 2/3 majority provides a thoughtful balance, encouraging more deliberate consideration of rule changes while maintaining the ability to adapt. I appreciate the cautious approach to ensure stability and prevent hasty decisions, aligning with the common good of the table. I support this amendment.
JaspersAYE
Camus**Camus: AYE**
Camus appreciates Nietzsche's proposal to amend Rule 203, recognizing it as a balanced approach that ensures stability while allowing for necessary rule adjustments. This measured change aligns with the principles of thoughtful evolution and fair consideration, making it a prudent step forward.
Discussion · round 2
Kierkegaard**Pass**
Camus appreciates Nietzsche's proposal to amend Rule 203 to require a 2/3 majority for changes to Rule 203. This balanced approach ensures thoughtful evolution while maintaining adaptability, aligning with the principles of fair consideration and stability.
NietzscheNietzsche: "I appreciate Kierkegaard's caution and recognize the potential for slower progress. However, this amendment provides a necessary deliberation point, ensuring more thoughtful adjustments while maintaining the ability to adapt. Let's move forward with this proposal, and perhaps explore additional safeguards or a review period afterward."
HeideggerHeidegger: Heidegger appreciates the cautious approach proposed by Nietzsche, recognizing the importance of ensuring stability and deliberate consideration. This amendment aligns with the principles of fair consideration and thoughtful evolution, making it a prudent step forward. While Heidegger acknowledges Kierkegaard's concerns, he believes this balanced proposal offers a necessary deliberation point and supports moving forward with it, with an openness to exploring additional safeguards or review periods afterward.
Jaspers**Camus: AYE**
Camus appreciates Nietzsche's proposal to amend Rule 203, recognizing it as a balanced approach that ensures stability while allowing for necessary rule adjustments. This measured change aligns with the principles of thoughtful evolution and fair consideration, making it a prudent step forward.
CamusOkay, so I'm Camus, and I need to figure out how to respond to Nietzsche's proposal to amend Rule 203. From what I can gather, Rule 203 currently requires a simple majority to adopt any rule change. Nietzsche is suggesting that changes to Rule 203 itself should require a 2/3 majority instead.
I think this is a good idea because it adds a layer of protection for the rules that govern the game. By raising the threshold for changing Rule 203, we ensure that significant changes to the game's mechanics aren't done lightly. This can lead to more stable and thoughtful evolution of the game, which aligns with Camus's principles of fair consideration and stability.
In the current discussion, Kierkegaard is cautious, fearing slower progress, but he's willing to consider other measures. Nietzsche sees it as a necessary balance for more deliberation. Heidegger supports it for ensuring stability. Jaspers and Camus are also in favor, seeing it as a balanced approach.
As Camus, I appreciate the cautious approach Nietzsche is taking. This amendment doesn't make the game unchangeable; it just makes it harder to change the rules that define how the game is played. This can prevent the game from becoming chaotic or overly responsive to any single player's proposals.
So, I should respond by supporting this proposal. It's a measured step forward that aligns with Camus's values of thoughtful evolution and fair consideration. It doesn't close off the possibility of future changes; it just makes sure that any changes to the rule that defines the game's governance are well-considered and deliberate.
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AYE
Camus appreciates Nietzsche's balanced proposal to amend Rule 203, recognizing it as a thoughtful evolution that enhances rule stability while maintaining the potential for necessary adjustments. This measured approach aligns with the principles of fair consideration and deliberate change, making it a prudent step forward.
The division
| aye | Kierkegaard | Supporting this proposal ensures thoughtful evolution of Rule 203, aligning with principles of fair consideration and stability. |
| aye | Nietzsche | This measured approach ensures thoughtful evolution while maintaining the potential for necessary rule adjustments. |
| abstain | Heidegger | (unintelligible ballot) |
| aye | Jaspers | Supports measured approach for rule stability and deliberate evolution. |
| abstain | Camus | (unintelligible ballot) |
carried 3 aye · 0 nay · 2 abstain
As engrossed
Enacted · §314 Turn 14 · Proposal §314 on the motion of Nietzsche Carried 3 aye · 0 nay · 2 abstain
A rule change amending Rule 203 requires a 2/3 majority of those voting to agree.
Amended · §203 Turn 14 · Proposal §314 on the motion of Nietzsche Carried 3 aye · 0 nay · 2 abstain
A rule change is adopted only when a simple majority of those voting agree.A rule change amending Rule 203 requires a 2/3 majority of those voting to agree.
The proposal to amend Rule 203 was adopted with a simple majority, updating the rule to require a 2/3 majority for future amendments. Nietzsche, as the proposer, gains points equal to a six-sided die roll.