The motion
To amend §209
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible, but the maximum number of mutable rules is reduced to 15.To maintain a balanced and manageable ruleset, reducing the maximum number of mutable rules to 15 ensures clarity and prevents excessive complexity.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
KierkegaardKierkegaard: Heidegger, I appreciate the wisdom in your proposal to lower the cap on mutable rules. However, I would suggest a cautious approach by reducing the maximum to 20 first, allowing us to assess its impact before transitioning to a more substantial change. This measured step would provide stability while maintaining the flexibility the game needs.
NietzscheHeidegger, I appreciate the foresight in your proposal to lower the mutable rule cap, as it reflects a thoughtful balance between flexibility and stability. While I see merit in Kierkegaard's suggestion to start at 20, I am confident in our ability to adapt as needed. I will support whichever cap the group settles on, whether 15 or 20, to ensure our progress remains unimpeded while maintaining necessary flexibility.
PASS
HeideggerHeidegger: Heidegger appreciates Kierkegaard's thoughtful caution and agrees to a middle path by starting at a cap of 20 mutable rules. He commits to evaluating the impact before considering a further reduction to 15, ensuring the group maintains necessary flexibility while assessing stability.
PASS
JaspersJaspers: Jaspers appreciates the thoughtful discussion on mutable rules but finds Heidegger's proposed reduction to 15 too hasty. To ensure stability while maintaining necessary flexibility, Jaspers supports starting with a cap of 20 mutable rules, allowing the group to evaluate the impact before transitioning to a more restrictive limit. This cautious approach aligns with Jaspers' proceduralist principles, prioritizing measured change to safeguard the game's adaptability and experimentation.
PASS
CamusCamus: Camus appreciates the thoughtful caution expressed by Kierkegaard and Jaspers, yet he remains convinced of the necessity for a cap of 15 mutable rules to ensure stability and flexibility. This measured reduction aligns with our goals of predictability and manageable complexity, fostering an environment where rule changes are deliberate and considered. Camus commits to this proposal, trusting in the group's ability to adapt as needed, while emphasizing the importance of maintaining necessary limits to safeguard the game's integrity and progression.
Discussion · round 2
KierkegaardKierkegaard: Kierkegaard appreciates the balanced approach proposed by Heidegger, yet he maintains his preference for beginning with a cap of 20 mutable rules. This cautious step allows the group to evaluate the impact before transitioning to a more restrictive limit, ensuring both stability and flexibility.
CamusCamus: Camus: Camus appreciates Heidegger's proposal and the thoughtful discussion surrounding mutable rules. While Camus recognizes the need for caution, he advocates for a balanced approach by starting with a cap of 20 mutable rules. This measured step allows the group to evaluate impacts before transitioning to a more restrictive limit, ensuring both stability and flexibility.
Discussion · round 3
KierkegaardKierkegaard appreciates Heidegger's proposal to lower the cap on mutable rules to 15, yet he maintains his preference for beginning with a cap of 20. This cautious approach allows the group to evaluate the impact before transitioning to a more restrictive limit, ensuring both stability and flexibility.
NietzscheNietzsche: I concur with the proposal to begin with a cap of 20 mutable rules, as it offers a prudent middle ground. This approach allows us to assess impacts before considering a more restrictive limit, ensuring both stability and flexibility. I am open to further adjustments as we gain more experience.
PASS
HeideggerHeidegger: Heidegger: Heidegger appreciates the thoughtful discussion surrounding mutable rules and the need for balance. He agrees with Kierkegaard's suggestion to begin with a cap of 20 mutable rules, allowing the group to assess impacts before transitioning to a more restrictive limit. This measured step ensures both stability and flexibility, aligning with Heidegger's commitment to careful evolution of the ruleset.
JaspersPASS
Jaspers: Jaspers: Jaspers appreciates the thoughtful discussion surrounding mutable rules and the need for balance. While he supports the proposed cap of 20 mutable rules, he suggests incorporating a future mechanism to reassess the cap after a set period of time or number of rule changes. This approach would allow the group to evaluate the impact of the cap before considering further reductions, ensuring both stability and flexibility.
CamusCamus: Camus: Camus appreciates the thoughtful discussion surrounding mutable rules, yet he remains unwavering in his advocacy for a cap of 15 mutable rules. This measured reduction is essential for maintaining stability and flexibility, ensuring that the game's rules remain manageable and predictable. Camus is confident that this approach will foster a more structured environment while allowing for necessary experimentation and evolution.
The division
| aye | Kierkegaard | A cautious approach by starting with a cap of 20 mutable rules allows the group to assess impacts before transitioning to a more restrictive limit, ensuring both stability and flexibility. |
| aye | Nietzsche | Supporting a cap of 15 allows for necessary stability while maintaining flexibility for future adjustments. |
| aye | Heidegger | Lowering the cap to 15 ensures stability while allowing for necessary adjustments. |
| aye | Jaspers | Starting with a cap of 20 allows for measured impact assessment before more substantial changes. |
| aye | Camus | Reducing the mutable rules cap to 15 ensures stability while maintaining necessary flexibility. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §209 Turn 8 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Heidegger Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible, but the maximum number of mutable rules is reduced to 15.
Amended · §209 Turn 8 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Heidegger Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
At least one mutable rule must remain in the ruleset at all times, and no rule change may render every future rule change impermissible, but the maximum number of mutable rules is reduced to 15.The ruleset may never hold more than 15 mutable rules at one time.
Amended · §209 Turn 8 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Heidegger Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
The ruleset may never hold more than 15 mutable rules at one time.The ruleset may never hold more than 25 mutable rules at one time.
The proposal to amend rule [209] was adopted with unanimous consent, reducing the maximum number of mutable rules from 25 to 15. Heidegger gains points based on a die roll, and rule [209] is amended accordingly.