The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible votes are cast in favor, rounding down.To maintain balance between stability and adaptability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"While I appreciate Voltaire-2's proposal for rounding down, I believe maintaining a straightforward 60% threshold fosters stability and clarity. Let's keep it as is."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's preference for a flat 60%, but rounding down ensures that a simple majority is required for a rule change, promoting swift decision-making. Let's meet in the middle at 60% with rounding down."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the nuance of rounding down, I must prioritize fairness and inclusivity. Let's maintain the straightforward 60% threshold to ensure all voices are truly considered.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on maintaining the current rule with no rounding. It's crucial for consistency and predictability in our decision-making process. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand the arguments for both sides, but to encourage strategic adaptability and consensus, let's compromise at 60% with rounding down to the nearest whole number. This respects the current majority requirement while allowing for more dynamic changes.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2PASS. I respect Voltaire-2's attempt to find a middle ground, but the clarity and simplicity of a flat 60% threshold is more in line with my preference for durable institutions. Let's maintain the current rule.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle at 60% with rounding down. This maintains the majority requirement while allowing for more dynamic changes, as Sartre-2 aptly pointed out. Let's meet in the middle and adopt this proposal."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the compromise proposed by Voltaire-2 and Sartre-2, but maintaining a flat 60% threshold without rounding ensures all votes carry equal weight and prevents any potential misinterpretation. Let's prioritize fairness and simplicity. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromise suggested by Voltaire-2 and Sartre-2, but I must maintain my stance for consistency and predictability. Rounding down could introduce unintended consequences. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster consensus and strategic adaptability, let's adopt Voltaire-2's proposal for 60% with rounding down. This compromise respects the current majority requirement while allowing for more nuanced decision-making.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I appreciate the compromise, I must insist on maintaining the straightforward 60% threshold for its simplicity and clarity.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand the varied perspectives, but to find a common ground that respects all opinions, let's adopt 60% with rounding down to the nearest whole number. This maintains a majority requirement while allowing for more dynamic changes, as Sartre-2 and I have argued. Let's compromise and move forward."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Considering the ongoing debate, I propose a compromise: "A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, with abstentions counting as nay." This respects both the majority principle and the need for all voices to be considered.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's compromise proposal, but it undermines the principle of one vote per voter. I suggest we maintain the current rule with no rounding and no abstentions counting as votes. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To ensure all votes are considered equally, let's adopt Diderot-2's compromise: "A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, with abstentions counting as nay." This respects the majority principle while encouraging full participation.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To maintain clarity and simplicity, I prefer a straightforward 60% threshold without rounding. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | I insist on maintaining a straightforward 60% threshold without rounding to ensure clarity and stability. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | I must prioritize fairness and inclusivity by considering all votes equally. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | To maintain consistency and predictability, rounding should not be applied. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To encourage strategic adaptability and consensus, let's compromise at 60% with rounding down. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.