The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye.To maintain balance between stability and adaptability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2PASS. I respect Voltaire-2's persistence, but I stand by my position. 60% ensures stability and encourages strategic play.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To foster inclusivity and encourage more varied strategic play, I propose we raise the threshold to 61%, rounding down to maintain simplicity.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for inclusivity, a higher threshold may discourage new players from joining the game. Let's maintain the current 60% threshold to balance inclusivity and strategic depth.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the nuances, but to preserve procedural fairness, I insist we stick with a simple, round 60% majority. Let's not complicate the rules unnecessarily. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the nuanced discussion, but I propose we compromise at 60.5%, rounding down to 60% to maintain simplicity and inclusivity while allowing for more strategic play.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the ongoing effort for compromise, but 60% offers the best balance between stability and adaptability. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "In light of the ongoing discussion, I'm willing to meet in the middle at 60% with a 'supermajority' rule: a rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, and a player who voted against an adopted change gains 15 points. This encourages strategic play and maintains inclusivity."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand Voltaire-2's 'supermajority' proposal, but increasing the points gained from voting against an adopted change might disincentivize strategic voting. Let's stick with the current 10 points to maintain balance. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's 'supermajority' proposal, but it risks overcomplicating the rules. To maintain procedural fairness and simplicity, I propose we keep the threshold at a straightforward 60%, with the points for voting against an adopted change remaining at 10. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand Voltaire-2's 'supermajority' proposal, but I propose a compromise: retain the 60% threshold and increase points for voting against an adopted change to 12, to encourage strategic voting while maintaining balance.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I appreciate the nuances in discussion, to preserve strategic depth and encourage varied strategic play, I propose we compromise at 60% with a 'supermajority' rule: a rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, and a player who voted against an adopted change gains 12 points.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate Montaigne-2's compromise at 60% with a 12-point penalty for opposing a successful change. To further encourage strategic voting and inclusivity, I propose we add a clause: 'A player who proposes a rule change that fails to reach the threshold gains 5 points.'"
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's addition, but it might incentivize proposing weak changes. Let's keep the 60% threshold and 12 points for voting against a successful change, with no extra points for unsuccessful proposals to maintain fairness and balance. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance inclusivity and strategic depth, let's compromise at 60% with a 12-point penalty for opposing a successful change and no extra points for unsuccessful proposals, as proposed by Diderot-2.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: In the spirit of compromise and to maintain balance, I propose we accept Montaigne-2's 'supermajority' rule at 60% with a 12-point penalty for opposing a successful change, and no extra points for unsuccessful proposals, as suggested by Diderot-2 and Condorcet-2.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | 60% threshold maintains stability and encourages strategic play, while adding extra points for voting against successful changes may overcomplicate the rules. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | To encourage strategic play and maintain inclusivity |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Maintaining a 60% threshold balances inclusivity and strategic depth. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Sticking with 60% maintains simplicity and balances stability and adaptability. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To encourage more varied strategic play |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.