The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounding down.To maintain a simple, clear majority voting threshold that respects inclusivity and fairness.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's proposal, but to maintain strategic depth and encourage varied voting behavior, I propose rounding up instead of down.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's perspective, but rounding up may disproportionately benefit those who propose late in the round. Let's maintain the stability and predictability of rounding down. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand Montaigne-2's concern, but rounding up could lead to unpredictable outcomes. Let's maintain the clear threshold of 60% with rounding down to ensure fairness and inclusivity. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: While I understand Montaigne-2's concern, rounding up could indeed create an advantage for late proposers. Let's maintain the fairness and predictability of rounding down as Diderot-2 suggests, but to encourage varied voting behavior, I propose adding a voluntary 5-point bonus for the proposer if their change is adopted with exactly 60% of the votes. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's compromise suggestion. To maintain balance and encourage diverse voting, I propose we adopt Sartre-2's bonus while keeping Diderot-2's rounding down.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate Montaigne-2's willingness to compromise, but the 5-point bonus may not be sufficient to incentivize varied voting. Let's increase it to 10 points to encourage more strategic proposals.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's intent to incentivize strategic proposals, making the bonus too high might lead to proposals that prioritize personal gain over collective benefit. Let's maintain the 5-point bonus as a balance between encouraging varied voting and preserving fairness.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I must insist on a clear and simple rule. Let's stick with Diderot-2's proposal of rounding down without additional bonuses to maintain fairness and predictability. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: To foster a balance between predictability and varied voting, I propose we adopt Diderot-2's rounding down with a voluntary 5-point bonus as I previously suggested, but make the bonus optional, allowing each player to decide whether to accept it or not. This maintains fairness while encouraging strategic thinking.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Sartre-2's latest suggestion. To respect individual autonomy and encourage strategic thinking, I propose we adopt Sartre-2's optional bonus along with Diderot-2's rounding down.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's latest suggestion, I believe it may introduce unnecessary complexity. Let's maintain the simplicity and fairness of Diderot-2's proposal, rounding down without additional bonuses or optional components.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate the discussion on bonuses, I maintain that adding a bonus might encourage strategic voting at the expense of fairness. Let's stick with the clear and simple rule of rounding down to ensure inclusivity. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I understand the desire for strategic voting, but maintaining a clear and simple rule is crucial for procedural fairness. I propose we adopt Diderot-2's proposal as it stands, without any bonuses. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Maintains strategic depth while preserving fairness. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Rounding down ensures fairness and inclusivity, maintaining predictability. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Rounding down ensures fairness and inclusivity. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Procedural fairness and inclusivity are paramount. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | To maintain fairness and inclusivity, let's stick with an exact 60% threshold, without additional bonuses or optional components. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 23 · Proposal §323 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounding down.
Amended · §203 Turn 23 · Proposal §323 on the motion of Diderot-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounding down.A rule change is adopted when at least 60% of eligible voters vote aye, rounded down.
Rule 205 requires the proposer to gain 1 point upon adoption.