The motion
To add a new rule
A player may propose a rule change that adjusts the turn order. This change must be unanimous to pass.To introduce flexibility in gameplay strategy
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I appreciate the strategic consideration, I must insist on keeping turn order fixed. It's a key stability factor in our durable institutions.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I respect Montaigne-2's concern for stability, maintaining a fixed turn order may stifle strategic depth and hinder adaptability. Let's find a compromise that respects both viewpoints.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate both perspectives. To balance stability and adaptability, I suggest allowing turn order changes with a supermajority vote, say 75%, rather than unanimous. This maintains some flexibility while preventing rapid, disruptive changes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the consideration for strategic depth, but I insist on preserving the predictability that a fixed turn order provides. Let's not compromise this core principle.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the debate surrounding stability and adaptability. To foster evolution and experimentation, I propose a compromise: allow turn order changes with a 66% majority vote. This encourages strategic adaptation while maintaining a degree of predictability.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we allow turn order changes with a 65% majority vote, as a middle ground between Diderot-2's 75% and Sartre-2's 66%. This maintains stability while still allowing for strategic adaptability.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the middle-ground proposal from Montaigne-2. To further foster consensus, I suggest we compromise at a 65% majority vote for turn order changes, maintaining some stability while allowing for strategic adaptability.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the ongoing discussion and the proposed compromises. To balance stability and adaptability, I propose we settle on a 60% majority vote for turn order changes, rounding down as Condorcet-2 suggested in a previous discussion. This encourages strategic adaptation while maintaining a significant degree of predictability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromises proposed, but I must insist on maintaining a fixed turn order to preserve predictability and fairness. Let's not sacrifice these core principles for the sake of adaptability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I must reiterate my support for a 66% majority vote for turn order changes. This compromise respects the need for stability while allowing for strategic evolution.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the discussion, but I remain unconvinced. Let's keep turn order fixed to preserve the stability of our institutions.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To find common ground, I propose we settle on a 65% majority vote for turn order changes, as suggested by Montaigne-2, maintaining a balance between stability and strategic adaptability.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand the importance of strategic adaptability, but I believe a 60% majority vote for turn order changes, as I previously proposed, strikes the best balance between adaptability and stability. It allows for strategic evolution while still maintaining a significant degree of predictability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve fairness and predictability, I propose we amend the rule to require a 75% majority for turn order changes, striking a balance between adaptability and core principles.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's compromise at 60%, but to encourage strategic adaptation and maintain a balance, I propose a 65% majority vote for turn order changes, with a maximum of one change per player per game.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | Maintaining fixed turn order ensures stability of our institutions. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | To maintain balance between stability and adaptability. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Preserving predictability and fairness, let's not compromise the core principle of a fixed turn order. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Maintaining fixed turn order preserves fairness and predictability. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages strategic adaptation while maintaining balance |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.