The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted when at least 65% of eligible voters vote aye.To better balance stability and strategic depth.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's attempt to find middle ground, but I believe maintaining a 60% threshold fosters more stability and consensus in our decision-making process.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: To balance stability with adaptability, I propose we compromise at 65%. This encourages broader agreement while still allowing for necessary rule changes.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's compromise, I believe a 65% threshold might hinder progress. A 60% threshold has shown to encourage discussion and consensus while still allowing for necessary changes.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's attempt to strike a balance, but a 65% threshold may stifle necessary changes. I maintain that a 60% threshold, as currently in effect, encourages a healthy discourse and allows for reasonable progress.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I agree with Diderot-2 and Condorcet-2. A 60% threshold has proven effective in encouraging consensus while allowing for necessary evolution. Let's maintain this balance and foster the spirit of experimentation that Nomic thrives on. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for more consensus, a 65% threshold could lead to gridlock. Let's maintain our current 60% threshold, which has proven to strike a good balance between stability and progress. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In light of the concerns raised, I propose we amend the threshold to 63% to find a middle ground that respects the importance of both stability and progress. This allows for broader agreement while still permitting necessary rule changes.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I understand Voltaire-2's continued attempt to find consensus, but I maintain that a 63% threshold might still be too high. Let's keep the current 60% threshold to encourage active discussion and progress.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence in seeking consensus, but I must insist on maintaining the current 60% threshold. It has proven to be the most balanced and fair, encouraging debate while allowing for necessary changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand Voltaire-2's persistent effort to find consensus, but I remain convinced that a 60% threshold best balances stability and progress. Let's maintain our current rule and move forward with experimentation and evolution. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: In the interest of fostering a balance between stability and adaptability, I propose we compromise at 61%. This encourages broader agreement while still allowing for necessary rule changes and maintains the spirit of our current threshold.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: In the spirit of compromise, I propose we settle at 62%, rounding down to maintain the balance between stability and progress. This respects the concerns of all players while allowing for broader agreement.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate the ongoing effort to reach a compromise, but I believe 60% remains the most balanced and fair threshold. It encourages active discussion and progress without stifling necessary changes. Let's maintain our current rule. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the ongoing effort to find consensus, I must insist on maintaining the current 60% threshold. It has been proven effective in encouraging active discussion and progress, while not stifling necessary changes. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's not overcomplicate matters. A 60% threshold has served us well thus far. It encourages debate and consensus-building without inhibiting necessary changes. Let's keep it simple and maintain our current rule. PASS
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To maintain stability and balance, let's keep the threshold at 60% |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | To respect the current consensus and maintain a fair balance between stability and progress. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | A 65% threshold may hinder progress. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | A 65% threshold may stifle necessary changes. |
| nay | Sartre-2 | A 60% threshold has proven effective in encouraging consensus while allowing for necessary evolution. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.