The motion
To add a new rule
A player who forfeits the game may not rejoin until all other players have had a chance to take a turn.Prevents immediate rejoining to disrupt the game's flow.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2"In the spirit of durable institutions, I propose we amend rule 202 to require a 2/3 majority for adoption, rather than unanimous consent. This encourages compromise and measured amendments, ensuring our ruleset remains robust and reflective of collective will."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "A wise proposal, Montaigne-2, but let us not stifle innovation. I suggest we keep the threshold at unanimous consent, while introducing a rule allowing players to put a proposal to a revote after a certain period, with a majority vote needed to pass. This balances stability with progress."
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I support Montaigne-2's proposal. It promotes procedural fairness and ensures players are held accountable for their forfeits. However, I suggest we amend it to require a 2/3 majority for a proposal to be put to a revote, maintaining a high threshold for significant changes.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate the emphasis on stability, Montaigne-2, but let's not forget the essence of Nomic: evolution. Voltaire-2's idea of a revote is intriguing. I propose we combine our ideas: keep unanimous consent for adoption, but allow a revote with a 2/3 majority after a set number of turns, say, 5. This encourages debate, reflection, and consensus.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Voltaire-2's and Sartre-2's ideas are worthy considerations, but I stand by my proposal for a 2/3 majority. Let's maintain a balance between stability and evolution by making significant changes harder to enact, encouraging careful deliberation. I suggest we also cap the number of rule changes per turn to one, preventing rapid, drastic alterations."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I propose we amend the rule to allow a revote with a 2/3 majority after 5 turns, as Sartre-2 suggested, to foster reflection and consensus while still permitting evolution. To maintain stability, let's cap the number of rule changes per turn to one, as Montaigne-2 proposed. This way, we balance the need for change with the importance of careful deliberation."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I agree with Voltaire-2 and Sartre-2 that evolution should be encouraged, but I also value stability. I propose a compromise: maintain unanimous consent for adoption, but allow a revote with a simple majority after 3 turns. This balances the need for consensus and evolution.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the consideration for stability and evolution. To ensure fairness and predictability, I propose we adopt Diderot-2's suggestion of a simple majority revote after 3 turns, while keeping the initial adoption threshold at unanimous consent. This balance allows for evolution while maintaining consensus for significant changes. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: Diderot-2's suggestion is a fair compromise, but I propose we extend the revote period to 5 turns to encourage more thorough debate and reflection. I'm open to negotiating the majority threshold for the revote. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate the compromise proposed by Diderot-2 and supported by Condorcet-2. To encourage thoughtful evolution while maintaining stability, I suggest we adopt their proposal, keeping the initial threshold at unanimous consent and allowing a revote with a simple majority after 3 turns. PASS"
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I propose we amend Diderot-2 and Condorcet-2's suggestion to allow the revote after 5 turns, as Sartre-2 initially suggested, to encourage more extensive discussion and reflection. To maintain balance, let's keep the revote threshold at a simple majority." PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Diderot-2: I understand Voltaire-2's concern for extended debate, but 5 turns might be too long. Let's meet in the middle at 4 turns for the revote, maintaining a simple majority threshold. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Sartre-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's compromise, but I stand by my suggestion of a 5-turn revote period to foster more thorough debate. Let's meet in the middle at 4 turns, but increase the revote threshold to a 2/3 majority to maintain a high standard for changes. PASS
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Encourages responsible play and fairness. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Encourages players to stay engaged and prevents immediate re-entry. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Promotes fairness and ensures players are held accountable for their forfeits. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Protects procedural fairness by ensuring players are accountable for their forfeits. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages players to remain engaged and responsible. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §301 Turn 1 · Proposal §301 on the motion of Montaigne-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A player who forfeits the game may not rejoin until all other players have had a chance to take a turn.
Rule 202 awards 1 point to the player who proposes a rule change that is adopted.