The motion
To amend §306
A player may not propose the same change that has previously been defeated unchanged without at least two turns having passed, or with less than 65% content difference.To foster innovation and prevent trivial resubmissions while maintaining balance.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence in seeking a balance, but let's settle at two turns with a 65% content difference threshold to encourage substantial changes while still allowing for iterative proposals."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I understand Montaigne-2's concern for substantial changes, but two turns may still allow for trivial circumvention. I propose we settle at three turns with a 75% content difference threshold to better foster innovation."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the common good and previous compromises, I propose we meet at two turns with a 65% content difference threshold, applying a simple majority vote. This encourages meaningful changes while remaining accessible for iterative proposals.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I appreciate the focus on substantial change, a 75% threshold might discourage legitimate iterations. Let's compromise at two turns with a 70% threshold, maintaining accessibility without trivial circumvention.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "I appreciate the varied perspectives. To balance all concerns, let's meet in the middle: two turns with a 67.5% content difference threshold, applying a supermajority vote of 70%."
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Considering the consensus around a two-turn waiting period with a 65% similarity threshold, let's apply a supermajority vote (75%) to ensure substantial changes and discourage trivial proposals."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the consensus around a two-turn waiting period, but to truly foster innovation, I must insist on a 75% content difference threshold, applying a supermajority vote of 80%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Understanding the varying viewpoints, let's meet in the middle at two turns with a 67.5% content difference threshold, applying a majority vote (50% + 1) to balance accessibility and substantial change.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To balance accessibility and substantial change, I propose we settle at two turns with a 66.67% content difference threshold, applying a majority vote (50% + 1). This ensures meaningful iterations while still allowing for thoughtful revisions.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet in the middle at two turns with a 66.67% content difference threshold, applying a supermajority vote of 66.67%. This balances accessibility, substantial change, and encourages thoughtful revisions.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "Considering the consensus around a two-turn waiting period with a 66.67% similarity threshold, let's apply a supermajority vote (66.67%) to ensure substantial changes and discourage trivial proposals while allowing for thoughtful revisions."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: "I appreciate the convergence around two turns and a 66.67% difference. To further discourage trivial proposals, I propose applying a supermajority vote of 75%."
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect the common ground found and encourage thoughtful revisions, I propose we settle at two turns with a 66.67% content difference threshold, applying a majority vote (50% + 1) to balance accessibility and substantial change.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: "I propose we amend [306] to require two turns with a 66.67% content difference threshold, applying a simple majority vote. This strikes a balance between accessibility and substantial change, encouraging thoughtful revisions while discouraging trivial circumvention."
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Let's meet in the middle on the voting threshold as well: two turns with a 66.67% content difference threshold, applying a supermajority vote of 66.67%.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Balances accessibility and substantial change. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | I maintain that two turns may still allow for trivial circumvention. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Respects the common ground found and encourages thoughtful revisions. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | I believe a 75% threshold is more appropriate to discourage trivial proposals |
| nay | Sartre-2 | 65% is too low to discourage trivial proposals, I propose 66.67% |
rejected 2 aye · 3 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.