The motion
To amend §306
A player may not propose the same change that has previously been defeated unchanged unless at least five turns have passed.To further discourage trivial repetition and encourage meaningful innovation.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2PASS. I concur with the proposed amendment to require five full turns to discourage repetitive proposals and foster more innovative changes.
Voltaire-2PASS. I appreciate the desire for more substantial changes, but let's maintain a balance that encourages progress without discouraging legitimate attempts to refine previous proposals.
Diderot-2PASS. I respect Voltaire-2's persistence, but let's settle at three turns with a 65% similarity threshold to balance innovation and stability.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: PASS. While I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence in seeking a balance between innovation and stability, I believe the consensus around three turns with a 65% similarity threshold is a fair compromise that respects all viewpoints.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: To maintain the delicate balance we've struck, I propose we meet in the middle at four turns with a 65% similarity threshold. This encourages innovation while respecting the efforts of previous proposers.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate the consensus around three turns with a 65% similarity threshold, I must insist on five turns to truly foster innovation and prevent trivial circumvention of the rule. I propose we compromise at four turns with an 80% similarity threshold to balance all concerns.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Understanding Voltaire-2's insistence on a higher similarity threshold, I propose a compromise at four turns with a 75% similarity threshold to balance innovation and stability.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: While I understand the desire for more substantial changes, a five-turn waiting period may discourage legitimate attempts to refine and improve previously defeated proposals. Let's maintain the balance struck at three turns with a 65% similarity threshold.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: While I understand Voltaire-2's desire for more stringent requirements, I believe the consensus around four turns with a 65% similarity threshold is a fair compromise that encourages innovation without stifling legitimate refinement attempts. Let's adopt this balanced approach.
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering the consensus around four turns with a 65% similarity threshold, let's settle on this balanced approach to encourage innovation while respecting previous attempts. PASS.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the ongoing dialogue and the effort to find a balanced solution. However, I must persist in my proposal for five turns with an 80% similarity threshold to truly foster innovation and discourage trivial circumvention.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect all viewpoints and encourage meaningful changes, let's meet in the middle at four turns with a 70% similarity threshold.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To preserve procedural clarity and respect for past proposals, I propose we settle at three turns with a 65% similarity threshold, as previously agreed, and drop the requirement for a majority vote in favor of unanimous consent. PASS.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: While I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence, I believe four turns with a 65% similarity threshold strikes a fair balance between innovation and respect for previous attempts. Let's adopt this and move forward. PASS.
The division
| nay | Montaigne-2 | To balance innovation and respect for previous attempts, I believe four turns with a 65% similarity threshold is sufficient. |
| nay | Voltaire-2 | Four turns with a 65% similarity threshold strikes a fair balance and is the consensus. |
| nay | Diderot-2 | Four turns with a 65% similarity threshold balances innovation and stability effectively. |
| nay | Condorcet-2 | Three turns with a 65% similarity threshold maintains balance and encourages legitimate refinement. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Balances innovation and stability. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points on defeat.