The motion
To amend §306
A player may not propose the same change that has previously been defeated unchanged until six turns have passed. The similarity threshold is 75%.To balance innovation and prevent trivial repetitions.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: "I appreciate Voltaire-2's persistence, but let's settle at the agreed 90% text similarity, requiring four turns before re-proposing a defeated change."
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I understand Montaigne-2's perspective, I must insist on six turns to truly discourage trivial repetition and foster meaningful changes.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: Let's meet in the middle at five turns with a 75% similarity threshold to balance everyone's concerns.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I propose a simple majority vote to change the rule to five turns with a 70% similarity threshold, to balance innovation with progress.
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I propose we consider a compromise: six turns with an 80% similarity threshold, allowing for substantial changes while discouraging trivial repetition.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Considering Condorcet-2's and Sartre-2's proposals, let's find a common ground at six turns with an 75% similarity threshold, ensuring substantial changes while allowing for some flexibility. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the convergence around six turns, but to truly foster innovation, I must insist on a 75% similarity threshold. Let's meet in the middle at 72.5% to accommodate everyone's concerns. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To respect Voltaire-2's persistence and find a common ground, let's settle at five turns with a 75% similarity threshold.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: Condorcet-2: I appreciate the effort to find a consensus, but let's maintain procedural fairness. A simple majority (4/5) should suffice to pass the new rule, respecting both innovation and progress. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: Considering the consensus forming around 75% similarity and five turns, let's maintain that while adjusting the voting threshold to a supermajority (4/5) to ensure widespread agreement on significant changes. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's not lose sight of the original purpose of this rule: to prevent trivial repetition. With that in mind, I propose a compromise: six turns with an 80% similarity threshold, and a supermajority (4/5) vote to change the rule.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: While I appreciate Montaigne-2's perspective, I must insist on maintaining the 75% similarity threshold to truly encourage meaningful changes. Let's meet in the middle at six turns with a 4/5 voting threshold to accommodate everyone's concerns. PASS
Diderot-2Diderot-2: To encourage substantial changes and respect all viewpoints, let's settle at six turns with a 75% similarity threshold and maintain a simple majority vote to balance innovation and progress. PASS
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: To ensure fairness and prevent strategic voting, I propose we maintain a simple majority vote to change the rule. Six turns with a 75% similarity threshold should strike a balance between innovation and preventing trivial repetition. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: "Given the persistent divergence, let's adopt a compromise: six turns, 70% similarity, and a 4/5 majority vote to balance innovation, progress, and procedural fairness."
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Compromise balances innovation and prevention of trivial repetition. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Compromise that balances innovation and repetition prevention. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Respects Voltaire-2's persistence, finds common ground, encourages substantial changes. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Maintains procedural fairness and balances innovation with progress. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Compromise respects all viewpoints and balances innovation with progress. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §306 Turn 40 · Proposal §340 on the motion of Voltaire-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A player may not propose the same change that has previously been defeated unchanged unless at least four turns have passed.A player may not propose the same change that has previously been defeated unchanged until six turns have passed. The similarity threshold is 75%.
Rule 202 awards 6 points to the player whose proposal is adopted.