The motion
To add a new rule
A player may not propose the same change that has previously been defeated unless at least two turns have passed.Prevent repetitive proposals and encourage meaningful debate.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate Condorcet-2's proposal for stability, but let's maintain some flexibility by reducing the waiting period to one turn.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I propose we meet in the middle at one turn, as Montaigne-2 suggests, but also clarify that the new proposal must be substantially different from the previously defeated one.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's clarification, but to truly encourage innovation and progress, let's reduce the waiting period to half a turn, with no substantial difference requirement.
Condorcet-2Condorcet-2: I appreciate the compromises, but two turns is the minimum required to respect the spirit of my proposal and prevent immediate re-proposals. Let's maintain this stability, even if it means we wait a bit longer. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I understand Condorcet-2's desire for stability, but let's strike a balance. I propose we settle on one turn, mirroring Voltaire-2's suggestion, and require a 25% improvement in votes received compared to the previously defeated proposal to encourage evolution.
Discussion · round 2
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: Let's meet in the middle at one turn, as Voltaire-2 and Sartre-2 suggest, but require a 20% increase in votes received to encourage progress without stifling innovation. PASS
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I appreciate the consensus forming around one turn, but let's also require the new proposal to be substantially different from the previously defeated one, to truly encourage innovation and prevent repetitive proposals.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I appreciate Voltaire-2's emphasis on substantial difference, but to truly foster evolution, let's combine that with Sartre-2's requirement for a 25% improvement in votes. This way, we encourage meaningful progress while preventing repetitive proposals. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's and Voltaire-2's emphasis on substantial difference and vote improvement. To balance this with flexibility, let's combine their suggestions and set the threshold for vote improvement at 15% while keeping the waiting period at one turn. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Montaigne-2Montaigne-2: I appreciate the focus on substantial difference and vote improvement, but to maintain fairness and prevent arbitrary judgement, let's require a clear and objective difference in proposal wording or intent, and a 15% increase in votes received, while keeping the waiting period at one turn.
Voltaire-2Voltaire-2: I propose we compromise on a 10% vote improvement threshold to balance encouragement for evolution with maintaining stability, as suggested by Sartre-2 and supported by Diderot-2's emphasis on substantial difference.
Diderot-2Diderot-2: I agree with Voltaire-2's compromise on a 10% vote improvement threshold, but to ensure meaningful evolution, let's also require that the new proposal targets a different aspect or mechanic of the game than the previously defeated one. PASS
Sartre-2Sartre-2: I appreciate Diderot-2's focus on targeting different aspects, but to encourage continuous evolution, let's instead require that the new proposal addresses the same issue but offers a significantly different approach. This way, we foster true innovation rather than mere rehashes.
The division
| aye | Montaigne-2 | Respecting Condorcet-2's stability proposal, but reducing the waiting period to one turn. |
| aye | Voltaire-2 | Promotes stability and prevents immediate re-proposals. |
| aye | Diderot-2 | Encourages evolution and prevents immediate re-proposals while respecting the spirit of Condorcet-2's original proposal. |
| aye | Condorcet-2 | Two turns ensures stability and prevents immediate re-proposals. |
| aye | Sartre-2 | Encourages continuous evolution and prevents immediate re-proposals. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Enacted · §306 Turn 6 · Proposal §306 on the motion of Condorcet-2 Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A player may not propose the same change that has previously been defeated unless at least two turns have passed.
Rule 202 awards 1 point to the player whose proposal is adopted.