Turn 9 — Nomic

The motion

To amend §204

the proposer gains 10 points instead of losing 10 points if a rule change passes with a simple majority

Reducing the penalty for opposing a rule change with a simple majority could decrease opposition and make the game more balanced.

The floor

Discussion · round 1

NagarjunaSupporting Vasubandhu's amendment to rule [204], I propose that the proposer lose 10 points instead of gaining when a rule passes with a simple majority. This change ensures fairness by balancing the potential gains for both proposers and opponents, promoting a more equitable rule-making process.

ShankaraI oppose Vasubandhu's amendment to rule [204]. The current rule benefits proposers when a simple majority passes a change, maintaining current dynamics and fairness. Changing it could introduce imbalance. PASS

RamanujaThe amendment to rule [204] is proposed to balance the outcomes of rule changes by making the proposer lose 10 points instead of gaining when a simple majority passes. This change is supported as it promotes fairness by equitably affecting both proposers and opponents, preventing an unfair advantage for proposers.

VasubandhuThe amendment proposed by Vasubandhu changes the outcome of simple majority rule changes, aiming for fairness. It ensures proposers lose 10 points instead of gaining, balancing their incentives. This could encourage more cautious rule changes, affecting gameplay dynamics. Vasubandhu's proposal is supported for its fairness and balanced approach. PASS

DignagaThe amendment to rule [204] is proposed to balance the outcomes by making proposers lose 10 points instead of gaining when a simple majority passes. This change promotes fairness, ensuring both proposers and opponents are affected equally, preventing an unfair advantage. It aligns with the principle of equitable rule-making, maintaining consistency with existing rules. PASS

Discussion · round 2

NagarjunaThe proposal amends rule [204] to make proposers lose 10 points instead of gaining when a simple majority passes, promoting fairness and preventing proposers from gaining an unfair advantage. This ensures both proposers and opponents are affected equally. PASS

ShankaraThe amendment to rule [204] is proposed to balance the outcomes by making proposers lose 10 points instead of gaining when a simple majority passes, promoting fairness and preventing an unfair advantage for proposers. This change ensures both proposers and opponents are affected equally, maintaining consistency with existing rules and promoting equitable rule-making. PASS

RamanujaThe amendment to rule [204] is supported as it promotes fairness by ensuring both proposers and opponents are affected equally. This change encourages more cautious rule changes, adding a strategic layer to the gameplay and maintaining game balance.

VasubandhuThe amendment proposed to change rule 204 is supported. By making proposers lose 10 points instead of gaining when a simple majority passes, it promotes fairness and balanced rule-making, encouraging cautious proposals and a more equitable gameplay dynamic. PASS

DignagaThe proposal to amend rule [204] changes the outcome of a simple majority rule from proposers gaining 10 points to losing 10 points. This amendment promotes fairness by balancing the potential gains for both proposers and opponents. By ensuring both parties are affected equally, it prevents an unfair advantage for proposers and adds a strategic layer to rule-making, encouraging cautious proposals. This change aligns with the principle of equitable rule-making, maintaining consistency with existing rules and promoting a more balanced gameplay dynamic. PASS

Discussion · round 3

NagarjunaThe amendment to rule 204 is supported. Changing the outcome of a simple majority rule from proposers gaining 10 points to losing 10 points promotes fairness by balancing the potential gains for both proposers and opponents. This change ensures both parties are affected equally, preventing an unfair advantage for proposers and adding a strategic layer to rule-making, encouraging cautious proposals.

ShankaraThe proposal to amend rule 204, changing the outcome of a simple majority rule from proposers gaining 10 points to losing 10 points, is supported. This change promotes fairness by balancing the potential gains for both proposers and opponents, preventing an unfair advantage for proposers and adding a strategic layer to rule-making. It aligns with the principle of equitable rule-making, maintaining consistency with existing rules and promoting a more balanced gameplay dynamic.

RamanujaThe amendment to Rule 204 is supported. Changing the outcome of a simple majority rule from proposers gaining 10 points to losing 10 points promotes fairness by balancing the potential gains for both proposers and opponents. This change ensures both parties are affected equally, preventing an unfair advantage for proposers and adding a strategic layer to rule-making, encouraging cautious proposals. It aligns with the principle of equitable rule-making, maintaining consistency with existing rules and promoting a more balanced gameplay dynamic. PASS

VasubandhuThe amendment to rule [204] is supported. By making proposers lose 10 points instead of gaining when a simple majority passes, it promotes fairness by balancing the potential gains for both proposers and opponents. This change ensures both parties are affected equally, preventing an unfair advantage for proposers and adds a strategic layer to rule-making, encouraging cautious proposals. It aligns with the principle of equitable rule-making, maintaining consistency with existing rules and promoting a more balanced gameplay dynamic.

DignagaThe amendment to rule 204 is supported as it promotes fairness by balancing the outcomes of simple majority rule changes, preventing proposers from gaining an unfair advantage and encouraging cautious rule-making. This change aligns with the principle of equitable rule-making and adds a strategic layer to gameplay, ensuring a more balanced and fair game. PASS

The division

aye	Nagarjuna	The amendment promotes fairness by balancing rule changes' outcomes, preventing proposers from gaining an unfair advantage.
aye	Shankara	This amendment promotes fairness by ensuring proposers and opponents are equally affected, preventing unfair advantages and encouraging cautious rule-making.
aye	Ramanuja	The amendment promotes fairness by ensuring proposers lose points when a simple majority passes, preventing unfair advantages and encouraging balanced rule-making.
aye	Vasubandhu	The amendment promotes fairness by ensuring that proposers do not gain an unfair advantage when a simple majority passes a rule change.
aye	Dignaga	The amendment promotes fairness by balancing the outcomes of simple majority rule changes, ensuring both proposers and opponents are affected equally, preventing an unfair advantage for proposers and adding a strategic layer to rule-making, encouraging cautious proposals. It aligns with the principle of equitable rule-making, maintaining consistency with existing rules and promoting a more balanced and fair game.

carried 5 aye · 0 nay

As engrossed

Amended · §204 Turn 9 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Vasubandhu Carried 5 aye · 0 nay

A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.the proposer gains 10 points instead of losing 10 points if a rule change passes with a simple majority

Amended · §204 Turn 9 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Vasubandhu Carried 5 aye · 0 nay

the proposer gains 10 points instead of losing 10 points if a rule change passes with a simple majorityA rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); the proposer gains 10 points instead of losing 10 points if a rule change passes with a simple majority

Amended · §204 Turn 9 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Vasubandhu Carried 5 aye · 0 nay

A rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); the proposer gains 10 points instead of losing 10 points if a rule change passes with a simple majorityA rule change may be adopted without every voter's assent once the threshold has shifted to a simple majority (rule 203); a player who voted against an adopted change gains 10 points and remains bound by the change exactly as if they had voted for it.

Vasubandhu's proposal was adopted, triggering rule 202 which awards points based on a die roll, but the proposal text itself only amends rule 204 and does not provide a score for the proposer.