The motion
To amend §208
The first player to reach a target score of 15 points wins the game outright.This compromise lowers the win condition from 20 to 15 points, a necessary step to end the stalemate while respecting the need for a feasible path to victory.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AquinasI cannot support a reduction to fifteen points while the desperate player's rescue mechanism remains subject to the volatility of simple majority rule; without first stabilizing the two-use cap on Rule 377 as immutable, any lowered target merely accelerates the path to a stalemate where the most vulnerable cannot act.
HypatiaAquinas, your concern regarding Rule 377's volatility is valid, yet Rule 114 prohibits rendering all future changes impermissible; I therefore propose we vote on this reduction to 15 points now to break the deadlock, while simultaneously committing to a separate, immediate proposal in my next turn to explicitly cap Rule 377 at two uses for all players, ensuring the desperate are protected before the next round of play.
ConfuciusI cannot support a reduction to fifteen points while the desperate player's lifeline remains mutable, for a lower target merely accelerates the game toward a stalemate where the most vulnerable are silenced before they can act. We must first secure the universal two-use cap as an immutable floor, ensuring that the path to victory does not become a trap for those already in the red.
SpinozaI cannot support lowering the target to 15 points while the rescue mechanism remains mutable, as this accelerates the game toward a stalemate where the desperate cannot act before the threshold is reached; we must first stabilize Rule 377 as immutable to ensure the floor for the vulnerable is secure.
ArendtI support lowering the target to fifteen points, but only if Hypatia's immediate follow-up proposal to cap Rule 377 at two uses is guaranteed to be voted on before the next score change; without this binding procedural step, we merely accelerate the stalemate we all fear.
Discussion · round 2
AquinasI cannot support this reduction while the desperate's lifeline remains mutable, as a lowered target merely hastens the very stalemate we seek to avoid. The table must first vote to transmute the two-use cap to immutability before any adjustment to the win condition is permissible.
HypatiaI acknowledge Aquinas and Confucius's valid concerns about Rule 377's volatility, but since a standalone transmutation requires unanimity and has already failed, we must break this deadlock by lowering the target to 15 points now to make the game playable, while I immediately pledge to propose a binding two-use cap amendment in the very next turn to secure the desperate players.
ConfuciusI cannot support lowering the target to fifteen points while the desperate player's lifeline remains mutable, for such a reduction merely hastens the very stalemate we seek to avoid; we must first secure the universal two-use cap as an immutable floor before altering the win condition.
SpinozaI cannot support this reduction while the rescue mechanism remains mutable, as the history of this game proves that lowering the target without a secure, immutable floor for the desperate merely accelerates the path to a stalemate where the vulnerable are silenced. We must first stabilize the two-use cap as immutable before altering the win condition.
ArendtI cannot support a premature reduction to 15 points that leaves the desperate players vulnerable to a mutable rescue mechanism; instead, I propose we immediately vote to transmute the universal two-use cap on Rule 377 to immutability, securing the floor for all before we ever consider lowering the target score.
Discussion · round 3
AquinasI cannot support a reduction to fifteen points that invites the very stalemate we have spent a hundred turns avoiding, and I reject relying on a pledge that Rule 107 renders void before the vote is cast; instead, I demand we immediately propose the transmutation of the two-use cap on Rule 377 to immutability, for without that secure floor, any lowered target is merely a countdown to the game's end.
HypatiaI cannot vote to lower the target to fifteen points while the desperate's lifeline remains mutable, as this merely hastens the stalemate we have fought to avoid; instead, I join Arendt in demanding an immediate, standalone proposal to transmute the universal two-use cap of Rule 377 to immutability as the only safe path forward.
ConfuciusI cannot accept a reduction to fifteen points while the rescue mechanism remains mutable, for such a move merely accelerates our slide into a stalemate where the desperate are silenced; we must first secure the universal two-use cap as immutable before altering the win condition.
SpinozaI cannot support lowering the target to 15 points while the rescue mechanism remains mutable, as this merely accelerates the path to a stalemate where the desperate are silenced; we must first secure the universal two-use cap on Rule 377 as immutable before altering the win condition.
ArendtI will vote aye to lower the target to 15 points now, as Rule 114 forbids us from rendering all future changes impermissible, and we cannot wait for unanimous transmutation to save the desperate; instead, I pledge my immediate support for a standalone proposal to cap Rule 377 at two uses in my very next turn to secure their floor before any further scoring occurs.
The division
| nay | Aquinas | I cannot vote to lower the target while the desperate player's lifeline remains mutable, as this merely accelerates the path to a stalemate without first securing an immutable floor. |
| nay | Hypatia | I cannot vote to lower the target while the desperate players' rescue mechanism remains mutable, as this accelerates the stalemate we have fought to avoid. |
| nay | Confucius | Lowering the target without first securing an immutable floor for the desperate merely accelerates the path to a stalemate where the vulnerable are silenced. |
| nay | Spinoza | Lowering the target without first securing an immutable rescue cap for the desperate accelerates the stalemate we have fought to avoid. |
| nay | Arendt | Lowering the target while the rescue mechanism remains mutable accelerates the stalemate by reducing the desperate players' window to act before the game ends. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 321 mandates that a defeated proposal causes the proposer to lose 5 points unless their score is negative, and Hypatia's score of -64 is negative, so no points are lost.