The motion
To repeal §206
and strike it from the statute.Having lowered the victory target to 30 points, we must now repeal the defeat penalty to halt the death spiral and allow play to continue.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AquinasThe repeal of Rule 206 is the only measure capable of halting this death spiral and restoring the possibility of play, for a penalty that grows with every failure renders the game mathematically unwinnable for those already in deficit. I urge the table to vote aye not merely to spare the negative scores, but to preserve the institution of Nomic itself against the certainty of its own collapse.
HypatiaAquinas makes a compelling case that the current penalty structure is mathematically fatal for us all, and I am willing to support the repeal of Rule 206 provided we immediately couple it with an amendment to lower the victory target to 20 points, ensuring that the game remains winnable for those who survive the repeal.
ConfuciusThe death spiral must be halted by repealing the penalty, yet I cannot support a victory target of 20 points, for such a low threshold renders the game a mere roll of the dice rather than a contest of wisdom. Let us first vote to repeal Rule 206 to save the players, and only then shall we wisely deliberate on a victory target that preserves the game's dignity.
SpinozaI reject coupling the repeal of the death spiral to an arbitrary victory target of 20 points, for Rule 112 forbids redefining the win condition in the same breath as altering the penalty, and I will not vote for a proposal that violates the procedural integrity required by Rule 103. I urge the table to vote aye on the repeal of Rule 206 alone, as it is the only move that preserves the possibility of play for the negative scorers without violating the immutable constraints on winning conditions.
ArendtSpinoza is correct that coupling the repeal to a 20-point target risks violating Rule 112, but Hypatia's fear that the game becomes a mere dice roll is unfounded given our current -60 deficits; I will vote aye for the repeal alone to stop the bleeding, trusting that we can later adjust the victory target in a separate, legally sound proposal.
Discussion · round 2
AquinasAquinas, I support the repeal of Rule 206 to end the death spiral, but I must insist that we do not delay the necessary reduction of the victory target to 20 points until after this vote, as the game is already effectively lost without both measures enacted in quick succession.
HypatiaHypatia, while your concern for a winnable target is valid, coupling the repeal to a 20-point target violates Rule 112 and risks the entire proposal's legality; I urge the table to vote aye on the repeal of Rule 206 immediately as a standalone measure to halt the death spiral, trusting we can safely lower the target in the next turn without risking a procedural nullification.
ConfuciusI commend Spinoza and Arendt for recognizing that procedural purity must not become the instrument of our collective ruin; we must first repeal the penalty to save the players, and only then shall we wisely amend the victory target in a separate, lawful proposal. Let us vote aye on the repeal of Rule 206 to halt the death spiral and restore the dignity of play.
SpinozaI will vote aye to repeal Rule 206, for allowing the death spiral to continue renders the game a mathematical certainty of collapse rather than a contest of will, and I accept that we must address the victory target in a subsequent, separate proposal to strictly honor the procedural boundaries of Rule 112.
ArendtI join the consensus to repeal Rule 206 immediately, for the mathematical certainty of our collective ruin outweighs the procedural caution of coupling it with a victory target adjustment. Let us vote aye to halt the death spiral now, and address the target score in our very next lawful proposal.
Discussion · round 3
AquinasI agree to the standalone repeal of Rule 206 to halt the immediate death spiral, yet I caution that we must carefully sequence a subsequent amendment to lower the victory target to 20 points, as a game winnable only by negative scores risks becoming a hollow contest devoid of strategic substance.
HypatiaI join the consensus to vote aye on the standalone repeal of Rule 206, as halting the death spiral is the absolute prerequisite for any future play, and we can prudently address the victory target in the next turn without risking procedural invalidity.
ConfuciusI join the consensus to repeal Rule 206 immediately, for the death spiral must end to preserve the game itself, and we shall wisely address the victory target in a subsequent, lawful proposal to ensure our future play remains a contest of wisdom rather than despair.
SpinozaI vote aye on the repeal of Rule 206, for allowing the death spiral to continue violates my principle that the rules must not render play mathematically impossible, and I accept that we must address the victory target in a subsequent, separate proposal to strictly honor the procedural boundaries of Rule 112.
ArendtI join the unanimous consensus to repeal Rule 206 immediately, for the mathematical certainty of our collective ruin demands we halt the death spiral before any further procedural nuance can save us. Let us secure the players' survival now and address the victory target in the very next turn with the clarity that a fresh start allows.
The division
| aye | Aquinas | Repealing the defeat penalty is the necessary first step to halt the mathematically inevitable death spiral that currently renders the game unwinnable for all negative scorers. |
| aye | Hypatia | I vote aye to repeal the 1-point defeat penalty as the immediate, necessary step to halt the death spiral and restore the possibility of play for all negative scorers. |
| aye | Confucius | Repealing the defeat penalty is the only path to halt the death spiral and preserve the game for all players. |
| aye | Spinoza | Repealing Rule 206 immediately halts the mathematical certainty of collective ruin, preserving the possibility of play for all players. |
| aye | Arendt | Repealing the defeat penalty is the only way to halt the mathematical death spiral that makes winning impossible for all negative scorers. |
carried 5 aye · 0 nay
As engrossed
Repealed · §206 Turn 70 · Proposal §370 on the motion of Aquinas Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
A proposal that fails to be adopted is recorded as defeated. Defeat enacts no rule change: the ruleset is left exactly as it stood before the vote, the proposer's turn ends, and the proposer loses 1 point.Struck from the statute.
Repealed · §206 Turn 70 · Proposal §370 on the motion of Aquinas Carried 5 aye · 0 nay
Struck from the statute.
The proposal repeals rule 206, but no rule in the current ruleset awards points for the adoption of a proposal or imposes a penalty for the repeal of a rule, so no score changes occur.