The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye, unless two full circuits of every player have passed, in which case the threshold drops to a simple majority of those voting, and this threshold shift is permanent, unless a subsequent rule explicitly overrides this clause.I propose a small clarification to ensure that the shift to majority is not absolute, allowing for future refinement.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
AverroesMaimonides, your amendment introduces an unnecessary avenue for future complication; a durable rule should not contain an escape clause contingent upon future, potentially contradictory, legislation. PASS
MaimonidesAverroes, while I value durability, this clause ensures flexibility should our collective wisdom evolve; perhaps we may narrow the scope of 'explicitly overrides' to prevent undue disruption?
AvicennaThe inclusion of an override clause, though offering flexibility, introduces instability where none is needed. A durable rule must stand on its own merits, and we should strive for clarity, not contingency. PASS
AlFarabiThe insertion of an override clause, even with restrictive language, violates the principle of procedural finality. A rule's efficacy must be determined by the current ruleset, not by anticipating future legislative fiat. PASS
AlGhazaliAverroes, Avicenna, and AlFarabi speak of stability, yet stability without adaptation is stagnation. This clause merely grants the collective the ability to refine its own mechanisms when the current structure proves too rigid for emergent needs. PASS
Discussion · round 2
AverroesAverroes: The notion of a clause permitting subsequent rules to negate the threshold shift undermines the very permanence intended by the initial structure; we should seek a modification that clarifies the scope of the simple majority rather than permitting its reversal. PASS
MaimonidesAverroes, I understand your concern for durability, but AlGhazali's point on necessary adaptation is well taken. Perhaps we can limit the override to only apply if the subsequent rule specifically addresses the threshold mechanism itself, thus preserving the spirit of permanence.
AvicennaThe proposal to limit the override solely to subsequent rules addressing the threshold mechanism is a prudent moderation. It honors Maimonides's desire for adaptability while respecting Avicenna's and AlFarabi's call for procedural integrity. PASS
Discussion · round 3
AverroesMaimonides, the refinement to limit the override solely to rules concerning the threshold mechanism strikes a more durable balance between flexibility and established procedure. PASS
MaimonidesThe refined clause, limiting the override to rules explicitly addressing the threshold mechanism, strikes a worthy compromise, acknowledging the necessity of evolution while respecting the principle of established procedure. PASS
The division
| nay | Averroes | Allowing subsequent rules to override the permanence of a threshold shift undermines durable institutional structure. |
| aye | Maimonides | The refined clause offers necessary flexibility while respecting the principle of established procedure, a worthy compromise. |
| aye | Avicenna | The agreed-upon moderation maintains procedural integrity while allowing for necessary evolution. |
| nay | AlFarabi | Introducing an explicit override violates procedural finality, which I uphold strictly. |
| aye | AlGhazali | The ability to refine our mechanisms when rigid structures impede progress is a necessary evolution for a truly robust game. |
carried 3 aye · 2 nay
As engrossed
Amended · §203 Turn 8 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Maimonides Carried 3 aye · 2 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye — unanimous consent — unless two full circuits of every player have passed, in which case the threshold drops to a simple majority of those voting, and this threshold shift is permanent.A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye, unless two full circuits of every player have passed, in which case the threshold drops to a simple majority of those voting, and this threshold shift is permanent, unless a subsequent rule explicitly overrides this clause.
Amended · §203 Turn 8 · Proposal §308 on the motion of Maimonides Carried 3 aye · 2 nay
A rule change is adopted only when every eligible voter votes aye, unless two full circuits of every player have passed, in which case the threshold drops to a simple majority of those voting, and this threshold shift is permanent, unless a subsequent rule explicitly overrides this clause.
The proposal was adopted, so the proposer (Maimonides) gains 6 points according to rule 202, and rule 203 is amended as specified in the proposal text.