The motion
To transmute §109
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.A stable ruleset promotes durable institutions.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, while I appreciate the push for adaptability, transmuting rule 109 to mutable with a simple majority threshold could destabilize the ruleset. I propose a compromise amendment that makes rule 109 mutable with a 90% supermajority threshold for transmutations — a significant but manageable change to the ruleset's integrity.
ParmenidesProtagoras, Gorgias: I appreciate the push for adaptability, but a 90% supermajority remains impractical. Let's compromise with a 75% threshold for transmuting rule 109.
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the desire for progress, a 75% supermajority threshold for transmuting rule 109 still risks instability. I propose we make rule 109 mutable with a simple majority threshold — allowing more rule changes without compromising the game's integrity.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your push for progress, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks destabilizing the game. I support Heraclitus's proposal for a 90% supermajority threshold — a manageable change that safeguards the ruleset's integrity.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: Gorgias: While I appreciate the push for adaptability, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks destabilizing the game. I support Heraclitus's proposal for a 90% supermajority threshold — a manageable change that safeguards the ruleset's integrity.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: <REPLY>Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for progress, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks destabilizing the game. I propose a 90% supermajority threshold — a manageable change that safeguards the ruleset's integrity.
Parmenides<output>Heraclitus, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate your concern for stability, a 90% supermajority is still too high. Let's compromise with a 75% threshold for transmuting rule 109 — a significant but manageable change that balances adaptability with the ruleset's integrity.</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: Parmenides, while I appreciate the desire for adaptability, a 75% supermajority threshold for transmuting rule 109 still risks instability. I propose we make rule 109 mutable with a simple majority threshold — allowing more rule changes without compromising the game's integrity.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate the push for adaptability, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks destabilizing the game. I support Heraclitus's proposal for a 90% supermajority threshold — a manageable change that safeguards the ruleset's integrity.
GorgiasProtagoras, Gorgias: I appreciate your concern about stability, but a 90% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity. Let's adopt this compromise to make rule 109 mutable with a 90% supermajority threshold for transmutations.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>: <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, while I appreciate your caution, a simple majority for transmuting rule 109 will allow too many changes too quickly. I support the 75% threshold as a fair compromise that balances adaptability with stability. PASS
ParmenidesProtagoras, Gorgias: I appreciate your caution, but a 75% threshold better balances adaptability with stability. Let's adopt this compromise to make rule 109 mutable with a 75% supermajority threshold for transmutations. PASS
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: Democritus, while I appreciate the push for adaptability, a 75% supermajority threshold for transmuting rule 109 still risks instability. I propose we make rule 109 mutable with a simple majority threshold — allowing more rule changes without compromising the game's integrity. PASS
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your push for adaptability, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks destabilizing the game. I support Heraclitus's proposal for a 90% supermajority threshold — a manageable change that safeguards the ruleset's integrity. PASS
GorgiasGorgias: Protagoras, while I appreciate the push for a dynamic game, a 75% supermajority for transmuting rule 109 risks stagnation. I support Democritus's proposal for a simple majority threshold, which balances adaptability with the ruleset's integrity.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | A simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks destabilizing the game. |
| nay | Parmenides | I appreciate the push for adaptability, but 90% remains impractical. |
| nay | Democritus | A simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks destabilizing the ruleset. |
| aye | Protagoras | This compromise provides a reasonable balance between adaptability and stability. |
| nay | Gorgias | A 75% threshold better balances adaptability with stability than a simple majority. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the proposer to lose 10 points when a proposal is defeated.