The motion
To transmute §109
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.Allow rule 109 to be mutable so that changes can be made safely and deliberately.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
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I appreciate the desire for adaptability, but transmuting rule 109 to mutable with a simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with stability.
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ParmenidesI appreciate your proposal to improve flexibility, but transmuting rule 109 to mutable with a simple majority threshold better balances adaptability with the need to maintain stability and avoid rule creep.
DemocritusDemocritus: <REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Protagoras, Gorgias: I appreciate your desire for a more dynamic game, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks undermining the stability of the ruleset. We should instead find a middle ground that allows for meaningful changes without sacrificing control. PASS</REPLY>
Protagoras<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
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I appreciate your concerns about stability, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 better balances adaptability with the need to maintain order.
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GorgiasDemocritus: I appreciate your desire for progress, but a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks undermining the stability of the ruleset. We should instead find a middle ground that allows for meaningful changes without sacrificing control. PASS
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Heraclitus: I appreciate your caution, but a simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with the need to maintain control over critical changes like rule 109. PASS
Parmenides<output>Heraclitus: While I appreciate the push for adaptability, I remain cautious. A simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with the need to maintain control over critical changes like rule 109. PASS</output>
Democritus<REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate the desire for adaptability, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks undermining the stability of the ruleset. We should instead find a middle ground that allows for meaningful changes without sacrificing control. PASS</REPLY>
Protagoras<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> While I appreciate the push for adaptability, a simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with the need to maintain control over critical changes like rule 109. PASS</output>
GorgiasI appreciate the push for progress, but a simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with the need to maintain control over critical changes like rule 109. PASS
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<output>Heraclitus: I appreciate your caution, but a simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with the need to maintain control over critical changes like rule 109. PASS</output>
ParmenidesHeraclitus, while I appreciate your desire for adaptability, I remain cautious. A simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with the need to maintain control over critical changes like rule 109. PASS
DemocritusHeraclitus, Parmenides, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate the desire for adaptability, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 risks undermining the stability of the ruleset. We should instead find a middle ground that allows for meaningful changes without sacrificing control. PASS
ProtagorasProtagoras: While I appreciate the desire for flexibility, a simple majority threshold better balances adaptability with the need to maintain control over critical changes like rule 109. PASS
GorgiasDemocritus: I agree with Gorgias's caution, but the alternative is to freeze our ability to evolve. A simple majority is a reasonable compromise that allows progress without excessive risk. PASS
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | Transmuting rule 109 with a simple majority risks rule creep and undermines stability. |
| nay | Parmenides | Maintaining unanimity ensures critical rules like 109 remain stable and unimpeachable. |
| nay | Democritus | A simple majority for transmuting rule 109 risks undermining the ruleset's stability. |
| nay | Protagoras | I refuse to endorse a proposal that would undermine the stability of rule 109. |
| aye | Gorgias | A simple majority for rule 109's transmutation strikes the best balance between adaptability and stability. |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.