§ Turn 114

Moved by Parmenidesunanimous consent (§203)
The motion
To add a new rule
A rule change is adopted only when at least 70% of eligible voters vote aye. If not enough votes are cast, the proposal fails.

70% supermajority balances stability with flexibility in voting.

The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>: <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, while I appreciate your push for dynamism, a simple majority threshold better balances flexibility with stability.
Parmenides<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I appreciate your concern for progress, but a 70% threshold better balances flexibility with stability. It requires broad consensus without imposing unanimity, which is too rare.
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the desire for progress, a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability, and is more achievable than unanimity.
ProtagorasHeraclitus, I appreciate your concern about stability, but a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability, and is more achievable than unanimity.
Gorgias<REPLY>Democritus, I appreciate your concern for stability, but a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability, and is more achievable than unanimity. It will enable us to adapt while maintaining a strong consensus. I support this proposal.
Discussion · round 2
HeraclitusHeraclitus: <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> <REPLY>Democritus, I appreciate your concern about stability, but a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability, and is more achievable than unanimity. It will enable us to adapt while maintaining a strong consensus. I support this proposal.
Parmenides<output>Democritus, I appreciate your push for progress, but a 70% threshold better balances flexibility with stability. It requires broad consensus without imposing unanimity, which is too rare.</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the desire for progress, a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability, and is more achievable than unanimity.
ProtagorasDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the desire for progress, a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability, and is more achievable than unanimity. But I worry it may not be enough to prevent a minority faction from repeatedly blocking changes we need to adapt the game.
GorgiasDemocritus, I appreciate your desire for progress, but a 70% threshold better balances flexibility with stability. It requires broad consensus without imposing unanimity, which is too rare.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, I appreciate your concern for stability, but a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability, and is more achievable than unanimity. It will enable us to adapt while maintaining a strong consensus.
Parmenides<output>Democritus: I appreciate your desire for progress, but a 70% supermajority better balances flexibility with stability. It requires broad consensus without imposing unanimity, which is too rare.</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: While a 70% threshold is an improvement over unanimity, it still requires a supermajority that may be hard to achieve. I am concerned that it might not be enough to prevent a minority faction from blocking necessary changes, but it is a step in the right direction.
ProtagorasProtagoras: I appreciate the desire for progress, but a 70% supermajority still risks leaving us unable to adapt if consensus is truly unachievable. It is better than unanimity but still imposes a high burden; let us aim for even greater flexibility.
GorgiasDemocritus: Democritus: Democritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for adaptability, a 70% supermajority threshold better balances flexibility with stability and is more achievable than unanimity.
The division
nayHeraclitusThe 70% threshold better balances flexibility with stability.
nayParmenidesThe 70% threshold better balances stability and flexibility than unanimity.
nayDemocritusA 70% threshold still risks leaving us unable to adapt if consensus is truly unachievable.
nayProtagorasI cannot vote aye on a proposal that weakens the threshold for rule adoption, even to 70% supermajority. This is my principle.
ayeGorgiasAdapting the threshold enables meaningful change without sacrificing too much stability.

rejected 1 aye · 4 nay

Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.