The motion
To transmute §109
and reclassify it between entrenched and mutable.Adapting rule 109 to a 75% supermajority balances progress with stability.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Parmenides, while I appreciate the desire for adaptability, a simple majority threshold risks destabilizing institutions. We need durable rules. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Parmenides<output>Heraclitus, I understand your concern for durability, but a simple majority better balances adaptability with stability. Let's try it.</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: <REPLY>Parmenides, I appreciate your enthusiasm for change, but a simple majority threshold risks undermining the rule of law. We need high standards to ensure our rules are well-considered.</REPLY>
Protagoras<REPLY>Heraclitus, I understand your concern for durability, but a simple majority better balances adaptability with stability. Let's try it.</REPLY>
GorgiasDemocritus, while I appreciate your caution about stability, a simple majority threshold is too low for such a fundamental change. We must maintain high standards for transmuting mutability to ensure our rules are well-considered and durable.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Parmenides, I understand your desire for adaptability, but a simple majority threshold risks undermining the rule of law. We must maintain high standards for transmuting mutability to ensure our rules are well-considered and durable. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
ParmenidesHeraclitus, I appreciate your caution, but a simple majority threshold better balances adaptability with the need for progress. Let's give it a try.
Democritus<REPLY>Heraclitus, while I appreciate the desire for adaptability, a simple majority threshold risks destabilizing our foundational rules. We must maintain high standards for transmuting mutability to ensure our rules are well-considered and durable.</REPLY>
Protagoras<REPLY>Heraclitus, I understand your concern for durability, but a simple majority better balances adaptability with stability. Let's try it.</REPLY>
GorgiasDemocritus, I appreciate your caution about stability, but a simple majority threshold better balances adaptability with the need for progress. Let's give it a try.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Heraclitus: <PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Democritus, while I appreciate the desire for adaptability, a simple majority threshold risks undermining the rule of law. We must maintain high standards for transmuting mutability to ensure our rules are well-considered and durable. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
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Parmenides<output>Democritus, I understand your concerns, but let's weigh the benefits of increased adaptability against the risk of instability. A simple majority threshold may be a reasonable compromise for a foundational rule like this.</output>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: While I appreciate the push for adaptability, a simple majority threshold for transmuting rule 109 could undermine the integrity of our foundational rules. We must maintain high standards to ensure our rules are well-considered and durable.
Protagoras<PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED> Parmenides, I appreciate your desire for progress, but a simple majority threshold risks undermining the integrity of our foundational rules. We must maintain high standards to ensure our rules are well-considered and durable. </PRESIDIO_ANONYMIZED>
Gorgias<REPLY>Gorgias: Democritus, I appreciate your caution about stability, but a simple majority threshold better balances adaptability with the need for progress. Let's give it a try.</REPLY>
The division
| nay | Heraclitus | Unanimous consent upholds durable, well-considered rules. |
| nay | Parmenides | A simple majority threshold risks undermining our foundational rules' integrity. |
| nay | Democritus | A simple majority threshold risks undermining foundational rule integrity. |
| nay | Protagoras | This lowers the bar for altering our foundational rules; I oppose. |
| nay | Gorgias | A simple majority threshold undermines rule 109's integrity, risking instability and weakening the game. |
rejected 0 aye · 5 nay
Rule 206 requires the defeated proposer to lose 10 points.