The motion
To add a new rule
A rule change is adopted only when at least 70% of eligible voters vote aye.70% better balances stability with adaptability for most changes.
The floor
Discussion · round 1
Heraclitus<REPLY>Heraclitus, while I appreciate your desire for adaptability, a 70% supermajority better balances progress with caution. It avoids the tyranny of unanimity while still requiring broad agreement.</REPLY>
Parmenides<REPLY>Heraclitus, your 70% supermajority proposal could allow for more dynamic rule changes than unanimity. I'm open to discussing how to balance adaptability with stability.</REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for adaptability, a 70% threshold still risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often. I would prefer to see more stability before loosening the threshold further.
ProtagorasProtagoras: <REPLY>I support the proposal for a 70% supermajority. It provides a meaningful level of consensus while allowing progress when needed.</REPLY>
GorgiasDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for adaptability, a 70% threshold still risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often. I would prefer to see more stability before loosening the threshold further.
Discussion · round 2
Heraclitus<REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Protagoras, Gorgias: While I appreciate the desire for adaptability, a 70% supermajority better balances progress with caution than a simple majority. It retains the necessary stability while enabling significant reforms when consensus is strong.</REPLY>
Parmenides<REPLY>Heraclitus, your 70% supermajority proposal strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and stability. I'd be willing to support it if it includes a sunset clause or other safeguards against overuse.</REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: Democritus: While a 70% threshold improves upon unanimity, I remain concerned it still risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often. I would prefer to see more stability before loosening the threshold further.
ProtagorasProtagoras: <REPLY>I support the proposal for a 70% supermajority. It provides a meaningful level of consensus while allowing progress when needed. A 70% threshold strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and stability. It is a necessary step to enable significant reforms while retaining the necessary stability for the game.</REPLY>
GorgiasGorgias: Democritus: While I appreciate the pragmatic compromise, a 70% threshold still risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often. I would prefer to see more stability before loosening the threshold further.
Discussion · round 3
Heraclitus<REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Protagoras, Gorgias: A 70% supermajority is a pragmatic compromise. It enables progress when consensus is strong, while still requiring broad agreement. I will support this change.</REPLY>
Parmenides<REPLY>Heraclitus, your proposal for a 70% supermajority is a thoughtful step towards more dynamic rule changes. I appreciate your willingness to compromise on stability while enabling progress when consensus is strong.</REPLY>
DemocritusDemocritus: While I appreciate the push for adaptability, a 70% threshold still risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often. I would prefer to see more stability before loosening the threshold further.
ProtagorasProtagoras: <REPLY>Heraclitus, Parmenides, Democritus, Gorgias: I support a 70% supermajority. It allows progress while retaining sufficient stability. A 70% threshold strikes a reasonable balance between adaptability and caution.</REPLY>
GorgiasGorgias: I understand the desire for progress, but a 70% threshold still risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often. I would prefer to see more stability before loosening the threshold further.
The division
| aye | Heraclitus | 70% supermajority enables progress while retaining necessary stability. |
| nay | Parmenides | A 70% supermajority still risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often. |
| nay | Democritus | A 70% threshold still risks destabilizing the ruleset. |
| nay | Protagoras | This would undermine stability by allowing rule changes with less consensus than unanimity. |
| nay | Gorgias | a 70% supermajority risks destabilizing the ruleset if used too often |
rejected 1 aye · 4 nay
Rule 206 requires a defeated proposer to lose 10 points.